Petro Canada increasing EV charging fees?!

Let’s imagine an average customer takes 25 minutes to charge his car (20 +30)/2 = 25, and that the charger is being used from 6 in the morning to 9 at night. That’s 15 hours per day. The revenue to PetroCanada would be 15 x 60 x $0.35 = $315 per day. Of course it would be less because it would take time to move cars into position. PetroCanada has to purchase that power so $315 is revenue, but not profit.
 
They sure do but they have zero desire in making the USA a better place for everyone only themselves. This IMO sums up what the "genius" has in mind. I will say no more.
And China will burn coal, oil, and whatever to make electricity to power their cars. lol They are not our friends and never will be.
 
They sure do but they have zero desire in making the USA a better place for everyone only themselves. This IMO sums up what the "genius" has in mind. I will say no more.
The term genius is WAY overused these days... I'd consider him an arrogant, childish buffoon and not much else.
 
That seems idiotic at best... why not charge more now to keep going further? That would be the same as me getting 2-3 gals of gas, drive 50 miles, get 2-3 more gals and repeat.

Squeezing the last bit takes longer. That’s the case with almost any lithium-ion battery system. Maximum charge rate is almost always reduced approaching 100% to improve battery longevity and most importantly to reduce fire risk. Encouraging charging to 80% helps to improve turnover, especially given how long it takes to finish off to 100%.

It’s a different setup without active cooling and heating, but Apple used to advertise maybe a 3 hour charge time with their approved “Fast Charging” iPhone equipment where it was about 1 hour from 0-70%, but 3 hours to 100%.

Here’s a pretty good article in it. They tried an empty 250 kW Tesla Supercharger and compared it to a 150 kW version. Didn’t save that much time because they basically peaked quickly and then tapered off to about the same charge rate.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32132062/tesla-250-kw-vs-150-kw-supercharger-tested/

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Someone who has an electric car with the fancy gps that shows charging stations, would you please plan a drive from Vancouver BC to Atlin BC, and then post your route, stops to charge, etc.
I'm truly curious.
My semi trucks regularly do this run, and I've wondered if a normal electric car would be able to without carrying camping gear, a cook stove, cooler of food, tent, generator, and lots of gas for the generator.
 
Someone who has an electric car with the fancy gps that shows charging stations, would you please plan a drive from Vancouver BC to Atlin BC, and then post your route, stops to charge, etc.
I'm truly curious.
My semi trucks regularly do this run, and I've wondered if a normal electric car would be able to without carrying camping gear, a cook stove, cooler of food, tent, generator, and lots of gas for the generator.
I would think I would have to be at one location or another to do that, but I don't know.

I didn't try this on my car, but basic map search showed me 10 chargers spaced out in between so theoretically it's possible. That's all I can really say.
 
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Someone who has an electric car with the fancy gps that shows charging stations, would you please plan a drive from Vancouver BC to Atlin BC, and then post your route, stops to charge, etc.
I'm truly curious.
My semi trucks regularly do this run, and I've wondered if a normal electric car would be able to without carrying camping gear, a cook stove, cooler of food, tent, generator, and lots of gas for the generator.
“A better route planner” can answer that question for you.
 
Someone who has an electric car with the fancy gps that shows charging stations, would you please plan a drive from Vancouver BC to Atlin BC, and then post your route, stops to charge, etc.
I'm truly curious.
My semi trucks regularly do this run, and I've wondered if a normal electric car would be able to without carrying camping gear, a cook stove, cooler of food, tent, generator, and lots of gas for the generator.
https://evnavigation.com/

Says it can't be done. Not saying that its accurate - just that is what it says. Also says not problem driving to my house in Charelston, so its to some degree accurate?

Fun tool for those without an EV - just to see how the elite travel :ROFLMAO: :eek:

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https://evnavigation.com/

Says it can't be done. Not saying that its accurate - just that is what it says. Also says not problem driving to my house in Charelston, so its to some degree accurate?

Fun tool for those without an EV - just to see how the elite travel :ROFLMAO: :eek:

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I didn't think about it, but I could have just routed it from here too using the car. Interesting.
 
Squeezing the last bit takes longer. That’s the case with almost any lithium-ion battery system. Maximum charge rate is almost always reduced approaching 100% to improve battery longevity and most importantly to reduce fire risk. Encouraging charging to 80% helps to improve turnover, especially given how long it takes to finish off to 100%.

It’s a different setup without active cooling and heating, but Apple used to advertise maybe a 3 hour charge time with their approved “Fast Charging” iPhone equipment where it was about 1 hour from 0-70%, but 3 hours to 100%.

Here’s a pretty good article in it. They tried an empty 250 kW Tesla Supercharger and compared it to a 150 kW version. Didn’t save that much time because they basically peaked quickly and then tapered off to about the same charge rate.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a32132062/tesla-250-kw-vs-150-kw-supercharger-tested/

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Interesting thing is that when I'm filling up with gas or diesel, when the pump handle kicks off, I pull the nozzle up halfway from all the way in and add more till it kicks out 2 or 3 more times. I an usually get in another 2 liters at least that way, thus extending my range. In the semi trucks i can get in another 30 liters per side, so another 60 liters of diesel, and they already have massive fuel tanks.
 
Interesting thing is that when I'm filling up with gas or diesel, when the pump handle kicks off, I pull the nozzle up halfway from all the way in and add more till it kicks out 2 or 3 more times. I a usually get in another 2 liters at least that way, thus extending my range. In the semi trucks i can get in another 30 liters per side, so another 60 liters of diesel, and they already have massive fuel tanks.
It is a complete mentality shift. Forget everything you learned about traveling with a gasoline vehicle.
 
“A better route planner” can answer that question for you.

It says that route is not possible.

I would think that if a person let a generator run all night to charge the car, while sleeping in the tent beside the car, it could maybe do it.
Once in Atlin plug into the motels 110 volt outlet for a few days while exploring the town on foot.
Most things are possible if a person really tries.

Electric cars in my region are very rare to see, especially a Tesla.
The last one I did see was a Leaf.

All this ev car talk got me looking at some online recently.

I must say the Porsche Taycan turbo s is a beautiful looking car.
I would be happy to park one in my garage. For going to town, running errands, grocery store runs, I bet its a fun car to drive from reading about it.
Keep the gas cars for road trips, my diesel ram for hauling and towing.


At home I could plug it into a regular 120 volt wall outlet to charge in the garage, which honestly would be fine with me, as I own multiple cars, and don't even drive my cars I do have daily. My Prowler should be put up for sale actually.
It so rarely gets driven, its a shame to just let it sit all the time. My daily driver ( more like 3 times a week ) is the Accord, new fun car the Boxster, work beast the Ram 3500. Recently traded in the Stinger, it was my wife's car, and seeing it sitting there was just a sad reminder of her passing.

Anyone know how a Taycan does in the snow?
Minus 45 weather?
 
On a trip I want to get there. I'm not about to drive around to save a few pennies on a trip. Locally I know where the cheap fuel is.
That kind of describes my approach. I drive far regularly, but to the same places so I have my spots. That’s probably the annoying thing with the Tesla. Supercharging is faster if I set the GPS for it to prep it, but I don’t like using it.
 
I’ve heard of people who ended up spraying fuel trying to get in just a little bit more after it clicked.


That is going too far.

I like getting in that extra couple liters though.

Living in the countryside, if I fill up in town, and then drive straight home, it is still 35 kms, so its not full when I pull into my driveway.
 
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