I went to O'reillys and I find the original oil size filter, finally! I don't know if they make them any more, but they are hard to find so I bought to hole shelf @ 3.69 each.
Original Motorcraft FL400s
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why did they downsize the oil filter? I used to use that one on my ford ranger and it was a decent size filter compared so some cars ive seen.
Originally Posted By: Junior96Stang
I went to O'reillys and I find the original oil size filter, finally! I don't know if they make them any more, but they are hard to find so I bought to hole shelf @ 3.69 each.
They aren't made anymore, you are just buying old stock.
I went to O'reillys and I find the original oil size filter, finally! I don't know if they make them any more, but they are hard to find so I bought to hole shelf @ 3.69 each.
They aren't made anymore, you are just buying old stock.
In some applications, the reduced size is a blessing that enables easier removal/replacement due to cramped access.
Junior...I assume "...to hole..." means 'the whole'.
Regarding the downsizing of some FL-820S to the FL-500S spec change, I don't know FoMoCo's rationale, but the flow rate & by-pass pressure between the two filters is significantly different, reportedly due to a change in the oil pump pressures in some engine applications, e.g. the 3.0 V6 (2009-2011 Fusion).
Junior...I assume "...to hole..." means 'the whole'.
Regarding the downsizing of some FL-820S to the FL-500S spec change, I don't know FoMoCo's rationale, but the flow rate & by-pass pressure between the two filters is significantly different, reportedly due to a change in the oil pump pressures in some engine applications, e.g. the 3.0 V6 (2009-2011 Fusion).
So far, the Purolator branded versions of the FL400s (the L/PL20195) are still the original, longer length. When P1s could be had for just over 2 bucks I snagged about 15 of 'em. I throw 'em on Toyotas too! 
cool.. I always wondered why the FL400S was shorter than then 51516. I guess that wasn't always the case.
They may be shorter, but they have the same amount of filtering media. It's nothing to be concerned about.
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
They may be shorter, but they have the same amount of filtering media. It's nothing to be concerned about.
Is there some evidence for this? It would be very comforting to know if that is correct. I've wondered about the reduction of media content, e.g. when Ford started spec'ing the smaller FL-500S instead of the former FL-820 on some apps.
They may be shorter, but they have the same amount of filtering media. It's nothing to be concerned about.
Is there some evidence for this? It would be very comforting to know if that is correct. I've wondered about the reduction of media content, e.g. when Ford started spec'ing the smaller FL-500S instead of the former FL-820 on some apps.
Originally Posted By: Hallmark
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
They may be shorter, but they have the same amount of filtering media. It's nothing to be concerned about.
Is there some evidence for this? It would be very comforting to know if that is correct. I've wondered about the reduction of media content, e.g. when Ford started spec'ing the smaller FL-500S instead of the former FL-820 on some apps.
I saw a thread back awhile ago where the new ones are about the same.
The only reason i try to find the original sized FL400s is for the higher oil capacity. I found the last one locally at pepboys. They don't make them anymore, just older stock that no one bought.
Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
They may be shorter, but they have the same amount of filtering media. It's nothing to be concerned about.
Is there some evidence for this? It would be very comforting to know if that is correct. I've wondered about the reduction of media content, e.g. when Ford started spec'ing the smaller FL-500S instead of the former FL-820 on some apps.
I saw a thread back awhile ago where the new ones are about the same.
The only reason i try to find the original sized FL400s is for the higher oil capacity. I found the last one locally at pepboys. They don't make them anymore, just older stock that no one bought.
Seems the oem filter from the factory is different that the Motorcraft from the parts chain stores. Just a thought.
I was going to get one for the taurus but ended up going to Napa for the filter instead.
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Seems the oem filter from the factory is different that the Motorcraft from the parts chain stores. Just a thought.
Correct. The factory filters lack all the graphics found on vendor & Ford parts sources. I've wondered how both would appear if cut open and the internals compared.
Seems the oem filter from the factory is different that the Motorcraft from the parts chain stores. Just a thought.
Correct. The factory filters lack all the graphics found on vendor & Ford parts sources. I've wondered how both would appear if cut open and the internals compared.
Stated here many times: Ford OEM = Champion made. Motorcraft aftermarket = Purolator made. A comparison would be interesting.
Originally Posted By: Hallmark
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Seems the oem filter from the factory is different that the Motorcraft from the parts chain stores. Just a thought.
Correct. The factory filters lack all the graphics found on vendor & Ford parts sources. I've wondered how both would appear if cut open and the internals compared.
Also it makes it real easy to find out when someone is lying about changing their oil when the motor takes a dump at 30k miles. I've seen it more than once, when that OEM filter is still on there and the customer shows fake oil change records.
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Seems the oem filter from the factory is different that the Motorcraft from the parts chain stores. Just a thought.
Correct. The factory filters lack all the graphics found on vendor & Ford parts sources. I've wondered how both would appear if cut open and the internals compared.
Also it makes it real easy to find out when someone is lying about changing their oil when the motor takes a dump at 30k miles. I've seen it more than once, when that OEM filter is still on there and the customer shows fake oil change records.
No, not small engines. FL400S is used in many engines from Ford to Japanese, V8 engine of Lexus LS400 can use FL400S.
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