I bought some brown honey.
Organic Cane sugar vs Sugar (s) ?
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Originally Posted By: spasm3
That drink has sugar, glucose and 2 artificial sweeteners, acesulfame potassium , and sucralose. It has about the same caffeine as 1 1/2 cups of coffee. It also has guarana which can be a stimulant similar to caffeine.
I would not drink that mess. The good thing i see is b-12. Drink a cup of coffee and take a multivitamin and save a few bucks.
You are paying a lot for water with sugar and 2 artificial sweeters as the main ingredients, along with trace other things.
acesulfame potassium , and sucralose. YUCK.
That drink has sugar, glucose and 2 artificial sweeteners, acesulfame potassium , and sucralose. It has about the same caffeine as 1 1/2 cups of coffee. It also has guarana which can be a stimulant similar to caffeine.
I would not drink that mess. The good thing i see is b-12. Drink a cup of coffee and take a multivitamin and save a few bucks.
You are paying a lot for water with sugar and 2 artificial sweeters as the main ingredients, along with trace other things.
acesulfame potassium , and sucralose. YUCK.
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Was brown sugar invented so that processing plants would be able to sell the sugar that got contaminated with whatever? All they had to do was even out the dark spots and other colors and now you have brown sugar.
Study up on how the sugar industry lobbies for price control and all the weird stuff going on to keep sugar prices high. Molasses coated is how the sugar is shipped into the continental U.S.
Was brown sugar invented so that processing plants would be able to sell the sugar that got contaminated with whatever? All they had to do was even out the dark spots and other colors and now you have brown sugar.
Study up on how the sugar industry lobbies for price control and all the weird stuff going on to keep sugar prices high. Molasses coated is how the sugar is shipped into the continental U.S.
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Sugar is sugar.
Not true.
Quote:
We are what we eat!
Elsa Petersen
If you’re like most people you have been seeing ads on TV promoting the positive values of corn sugar. Corn sugar is another name for high fructose corn syrup. High Fructose Corn Syrup or HFCS is manufactured by milling corn, then adding enzymes to convert some of its glucose into fructose making it sweeter. It is about twenty four percent water and the rest of it is simple sugars that are found in processed foods including breads, cereals, breakfast bars, lunch meats, yogurts, soups, and condiments in the United States.
Sounds good so far right? But what is not being told is that there are negative effects on the body when consuming HFCS. According to the Corn Refiners Association in their recent TV ad they stated, “When it comes to corn sugar or cane sugar, your body doesn't know the difference. Sugar is sugar." But the effects of corn sugar and cane sugar on the body are quite different. Corn is a starch and has a higher glycemic index of eighty seven versus cane sugar which is 60. Cane sugar comes from a plant and there is fiber in the sugar which helps to satisfy the body longer than HFCS. After processing corn sugar is so different it is not even labeled by the FDA as sugar instead it is considered a condiment. In addition to that almost all of the corn grown in the United States is genetically modified which has been linked to significant health risks.
The simple sugars of which HFCS is composed of rapidly deplete after ingestion which cause dips in blood sugar levels in the body. A Princeton University study showed rats gained significant more weight when consuming HFCS in comparison to table sugar, even when the caloric intake was the same. Most interesting were the rats accessibility to sucrose, which was equal to the sweetness of sugar and the HFCS was half as sweet as that found in soft drinks. The rats who consumed HFCS gained 48% more weight than their sucrose peers and had significant deposits of abdominal fat and circulating triglycerides. In humans, these are characteristics associated with obesity, heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
Is clear corn sugar is not the best dietary choice for anyone! Consumers need to demand the return of cane sugar into our packaged foods.
Sugar is sugar. What the author is referring to is the ability of the sugar source to bind the sugar and slow down the absorption of it into the blood stream, or referred to as the glycemic index.
The cane or beet sugar will be broken down into glucose and fructose and used in the body. Corn syrup (doesn't have to be high fructose corn syrup) is already broken down into the fructose and glucose for you, but since it doesn't contain as much complex carbohydrates (starch), the body can absorb the sugar faster and that is what leads to health problems, not the sugar itself. As far as consuming more and the lab rats gaining weight on HFCS that is triggered by the brain wanting more sugar to keep satisfied, and eating fructose (sweetest sugar available) takes more to keep the brain happy, hence the weight gain and formation of triglycerides, the body's way of storing excess energy.
Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Sugar is sugar.
Not true.
Quote:
We are what we eat!
Elsa Petersen
If you’re like most people you have been seeing ads on TV promoting the positive values of corn sugar. Corn sugar is another name for high fructose corn syrup. High Fructose Corn Syrup or HFCS is manufactured by milling corn, then adding enzymes to convert some of its glucose into fructose making it sweeter. It is about twenty four percent water and the rest of it is simple sugars that are found in processed foods including breads, cereals, breakfast bars, lunch meats, yogurts, soups, and condiments in the United States.
Sounds good so far right? But what is not being told is that there are negative effects on the body when consuming HFCS. According to the Corn Refiners Association in their recent TV ad they stated, “When it comes to corn sugar or cane sugar, your body doesn't know the difference. Sugar is sugar." But the effects of corn sugar and cane sugar on the body are quite different. Corn is a starch and has a higher glycemic index of eighty seven versus cane sugar which is 60. Cane sugar comes from a plant and there is fiber in the sugar which helps to satisfy the body longer than HFCS. After processing corn sugar is so different it is not even labeled by the FDA as sugar instead it is considered a condiment. In addition to that almost all of the corn grown in the United States is genetically modified which has been linked to significant health risks.
The simple sugars of which HFCS is composed of rapidly deplete after ingestion which cause dips in blood sugar levels in the body. A Princeton University study showed rats gained significant more weight when consuming HFCS in comparison to table sugar, even when the caloric intake was the same. Most interesting were the rats accessibility to sucrose, which was equal to the sweetness of sugar and the HFCS was half as sweet as that found in soft drinks. The rats who consumed HFCS gained 48% more weight than their sucrose peers and had significant deposits of abdominal fat and circulating triglycerides. In humans, these are characteristics associated with obesity, heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
Is clear corn sugar is not the best dietary choice for anyone! Consumers need to demand the return of cane sugar into our packaged foods.
Sugar is sugar. What the author is referring to is the ability of the sugar source to bind the sugar and slow down the absorption of it into the blood stream, or referred to as the glycemic index.
The cane or beet sugar will be broken down into glucose and fructose and used in the body. Corn syrup (doesn't have to be high fructose corn syrup) is already broken down into the fructose and glucose for you, but since it doesn't contain as much complex carbohydrates (starch), the body can absorb the sugar faster and that is what leads to health problems, not the sugar itself. As far as consuming more and the lab rats gaining weight on HFCS that is triggered by the brain wanting more sugar to keep satisfied, and eating fructose (sweetest sugar available) takes more to keep the brain happy, hence the weight gain and formation of triglycerides, the body's way of storing excess energy.
Originally Posted By: GiveMeAVowel
Quote:
We are what we eat!
Elsa Petersen
If you’re like most people you have been seeing ads on TV promoting the positive values of corn sugar. Corn sugar is another name for high fructose corn syrup. High Fructose Corn Syrup or HFCS is manufactured by milling corn, then adding enzymes to convert some of its glucose into fructose making it sweeter. It is about twenty four percent water and the rest of it is simple sugars that are found in processed foods including breads, cereals, breakfast bars, lunch meats, yogurts, soups, and condiments in the United States.
Sounds good so far right? But what is not being told is that there are negative effects on the body when consuming HFCS. According to the Corn Refiners Association in their recent TV ad they stated, “When it comes to corn sugar or cane sugar, your body doesn't know the difference. Sugar is sugar." But the effects of corn sugar and cane sugar on the body are quite different. Corn is a starch and has a higher glycemic index of eighty seven versus cane sugar which is 60. Cane sugar comes from a plant and there is fiber in the sugar which helps to satisfy the body longer than HFCS. After processing corn sugar is so different it is not even labeled by the FDA as sugar instead it is considered a condiment. In addition to that almost all of the corn grown in the United States is genetically modified which has been linked to significant health risks.
The simple sugars of which HFCS is composed of rapidly deplete after ingestion which cause dips in blood sugar levels in the body. A Princeton University study showed rats gained significant more weight when consuming HFCS in comparison to table sugar, even when the caloric intake was the same. Most interesting were the rats accessibility to sucrose, which was equal to the sweetness of sugar and the HFCS was half as sweet as that found in soft drinks. The rats who consumed HFCS gained 48% more weight than their sucrose peers and had significant deposits of abdominal fat and circulating triglycerides. In humans, these are characteristics associated with obesity, heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
Is clear corn sugar is not the best dietary choice for anyone! Consumers need to demand the return of cane sugar into our packaged foods.
Who is this Elsa Petersen and what are her credentials? As with many of your statements, this information should come with a citation. She comes across like a television personality offering medical advice that she's not qualified to give.
In any case, the consumption of glucose, sucrose, or fructose seems to only differ by a small degree. There is no "good" sugar. As with any food, moderation is significant.
Jason, the question of which sugar is better in synthetic energy drinks is ridiculous. Spending money on that junk and all of the other stuff you're eating is part of what's going to keep you from ever being self-sustaining. Just your breakfast of Naked Juice, bottled water, and precooked chicken cost more than an average day's worth of food for me. I eat well on the weekends, but during workdays, breakfasts are oatmeal, fruits/veggies from my garden or farm share, a couple of sandwiches at work, and dinner that I make myself.
Consider finding someone with a financial background who can act as a mentor and help you create a budget.
Quote:
We are what we eat!
Elsa Petersen
If you’re like most people you have been seeing ads on TV promoting the positive values of corn sugar. Corn sugar is another name for high fructose corn syrup. High Fructose Corn Syrup or HFCS is manufactured by milling corn, then adding enzymes to convert some of its glucose into fructose making it sweeter. It is about twenty four percent water and the rest of it is simple sugars that are found in processed foods including breads, cereals, breakfast bars, lunch meats, yogurts, soups, and condiments in the United States.
Sounds good so far right? But what is not being told is that there are negative effects on the body when consuming HFCS. According to the Corn Refiners Association in their recent TV ad they stated, “When it comes to corn sugar or cane sugar, your body doesn't know the difference. Sugar is sugar." But the effects of corn sugar and cane sugar on the body are quite different. Corn is a starch and has a higher glycemic index of eighty seven versus cane sugar which is 60. Cane sugar comes from a plant and there is fiber in the sugar which helps to satisfy the body longer than HFCS. After processing corn sugar is so different it is not even labeled by the FDA as sugar instead it is considered a condiment. In addition to that almost all of the corn grown in the United States is genetically modified which has been linked to significant health risks.
The simple sugars of which HFCS is composed of rapidly deplete after ingestion which cause dips in blood sugar levels in the body. A Princeton University study showed rats gained significant more weight when consuming HFCS in comparison to table sugar, even when the caloric intake was the same. Most interesting were the rats accessibility to sucrose, which was equal to the sweetness of sugar and the HFCS was half as sweet as that found in soft drinks. The rats who consumed HFCS gained 48% more weight than their sucrose peers and had significant deposits of abdominal fat and circulating triglycerides. In humans, these are characteristics associated with obesity, heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
Is clear corn sugar is not the best dietary choice for anyone! Consumers need to demand the return of cane sugar into our packaged foods.
Who is this Elsa Petersen and what are her credentials? As with many of your statements, this information should come with a citation. She comes across like a television personality offering medical advice that she's not qualified to give.
In any case, the consumption of glucose, sucrose, or fructose seems to only differ by a small degree. There is no "good" sugar. As with any food, moderation is significant.
Jason, the question of which sugar is better in synthetic energy drinks is ridiculous. Spending money on that junk and all of the other stuff you're eating is part of what's going to keep you from ever being self-sustaining. Just your breakfast of Naked Juice, bottled water, and precooked chicken cost more than an average day's worth of food for me. I eat well on the weekends, but during workdays, breakfasts are oatmeal, fruits/veggies from my garden or farm share, a couple of sandwiches at work, and dinner that I make myself.
Consider finding someone with a financial background who can act as a mentor and help you create a budget.
Sugar is good for business. It makes all kinds of food taste better so maybe people will eat more of it. Once they figured that people would eat "fast food" they probably figured people would eat anything with sugar added. They were right. Sounds reasonable, after all people smoke cigarettes and drink various beverages with alcohol. As a society we're way beyond eating just to survive and this is what it's coming to (bad grammar and all).
Originally Posted By: Bandito440
In any case, the consumption of glucose, sucrose, or fructose seems to only differ by a small degree. There is no "good" sugar. As with any food, moderation is significant.
I tend to agree
In any case, the consumption of glucose, sucrose, or fructose seems to only differ by a small degree. There is no "good" sugar. As with any food, moderation is significant.
I tend to agree
Originally Posted By: BRZED
Ah, sugar, my favorite edible commodity. The word has a sweet tooth and sugar sweetens the deal.
Lol, I have to admit to being a lover myself. Especially when mixed with chocolate.
Ah, sugar, my favorite edible commodity. The word has a sweet tooth and sugar sweetens the deal.
Lol, I have to admit to being a lover myself. Especially when mixed with chocolate.
We humans love sugar because, for our evolutionary ancestors, sweetness was a sign that food had necessary nutrition and should probably be eaten whenever it was found (e.g. fruits).
With a modern sugary food or drink, you get a massively amped-up "eat this" signal when it hits your taste buds, but you don't get the nutrients that are supposed to go with it.
Realizing that was a turning point for me. I don't like to be manipulated, even by inanimate objects.
With a modern sugary food or drink, you get a massively amped-up "eat this" signal when it hits your taste buds, but you don't get the nutrients that are supposed to go with it.
Realizing that was a turning point for me. I don't like to be manipulated, even by inanimate objects.
Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Should I go to the store and get a jar of pure honey?
**dumb question, since I have become an adult and do my own shopping: Can I buy that from Walmart? Do they even have that? (Or is Shop rite better.) I know it has to be in a glass jar.
I have had an insanely healthy start to today. Drank some Naked Green Machine then some Naked BLUE Machine (the blue may even be better! Has 5g FIBER and it tastes really good.. as I said, I drank glass of green, then blue.) Then took Blue with me.. sipped it. And a bottle of purified water. And took a gummy multivitamin. Ate a piece of Shop Rite rotisserie chicken... Jogged 2 miles, it is SOO nice today. I may jog again actually.. I have a non-jittery energy that doesn't make me mean. I bought a Red Bull and may sip it, just to be gradual. And eat another piece of chicken and then sip green and blue, before I k og agaon.. I don't want to mess up REST part of today. I also took my 10lbs "comfort grip" dumbbell and flexed my left arm at least 20-30 times with it in a Billy Blanks Tae Bo kind of motion (YouTube on my laptop replaced my TV and DVD player,) and also my right arm slightly less since my right arm is stronger.
No offence but this sounds like you described a cut scene from Idiocracy ...
Save some money, drink water and buy some real food, not expensive sludge in bottles. Coffee is a cheap source of caffeine, and I put a good table spoon of honey in it if I feel like it. Eat some eggs for some good proteins and fats. Apples should be dirt cheap now, eat a few of those.
Should I go to the store and get a jar of pure honey?
**dumb question, since I have become an adult and do my own shopping: Can I buy that from Walmart? Do they even have that? (Or is Shop rite better.) I know it has to be in a glass jar.
I have had an insanely healthy start to today. Drank some Naked Green Machine then some Naked BLUE Machine (the blue may even be better! Has 5g FIBER and it tastes really good.. as I said, I drank glass of green, then blue.) Then took Blue with me.. sipped it. And a bottle of purified water. And took a gummy multivitamin. Ate a piece of Shop Rite rotisserie chicken... Jogged 2 miles, it is SOO nice today. I may jog again actually.. I have a non-jittery energy that doesn't make me mean. I bought a Red Bull and may sip it, just to be gradual. And eat another piece of chicken and then sip green and blue, before I k og agaon.. I don't want to mess up REST part of today. I also took my 10lbs "comfort grip" dumbbell and flexed my left arm at least 20-30 times with it in a Billy Blanks Tae Bo kind of motion (YouTube on my laptop replaced my TV and DVD player,) and also my right arm slightly less since my right arm is stronger.
No offence but this sounds like you described a cut scene from Idiocracy ...
Save some money, drink water and buy some real food, not expensive sludge in bottles. Coffee is a cheap source of caffeine, and I put a good table spoon of honey in it if I feel like it. Eat some eggs for some good proteins and fats. Apples should be dirt cheap now, eat a few of those.
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Save some money, drink water and buy some real food, not expensive sludge in bottles. Coffee is a cheap source of caffeine, and I put a good table spoon of honey in it if I feel like it. Eat some eggs for some good proteins and fats. Apples should be dirt cheap now, eat a few of those.
Hopefully he is kidding....
Save some money, drink water and buy some real food, not expensive sludge in bottles. Coffee is a cheap source of caffeine, and I put a good table spoon of honey in it if I feel like it. Eat some eggs for some good proteins and fats. Apples should be dirt cheap now, eat a few of those.
Hopefully he is kidding....
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Originally Posted By: Al
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Save some money, drink water and buy some real food, not expensive sludge in bottles. Coffee is a cheap source of caffeine, and I put a good table spoon of honey in it if I feel like it. Eat some eggs for some good proteins and fats. Apples should be dirt cheap now, eat a few of those.
Hopefully he is kidding....
But we know he isn't.....
Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Save some money, drink water and buy some real food, not expensive sludge in bottles. Coffee is a cheap source of caffeine, and I put a good table spoon of honey in it if I feel like it. Eat some eggs for some good proteins and fats. Apples should be dirt cheap now, eat a few of those.
Hopefully he is kidding....
But we know he isn't.....
Hi OVERKILL I apologize for the delay on the posts.
I found 100% Black Tea with NO sugar (I checked the label..) I'm drinking that now. $1 a bottle. It's just "Tea, water, Citrus flavor" or something.
Core Power 26v protein after long jogs, sometimes..
AND I'm ready on Honda.
Cool?
I found 100% Black Tea with NO sugar (I checked the label..) I'm drinking that now. $1 a bottle. It's just "Tea, water, Citrus flavor" or something.
Core Power 26v protein after long jogs, sometimes..
AND I'm ready on Honda.
Cool?
OVERKILL
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Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Hi OVERKILL I apologize for the delay on the posts.
I found 100% Black Tea with NO sugar (I checked the label..) I'm drinking that now. $1 a bottle. It's just "Tea, water, Citrus flavor" or something.
Core Power 26v protein after long jogs, sometimes..
AND I'm ready on Honda.
Cool?
Unfortunately this progress is offset by your MMO binge in the other thread. At best we are neutral.
Hi OVERKILL I apologize for the delay on the posts.
I found 100% Black Tea with NO sugar (I checked the label..) I'm drinking that now. $1 a bottle. It's just "Tea, water, Citrus flavor" or something.
Core Power 26v protein after long jogs, sometimes..
AND I'm ready on Honda.
Cool?
Unfortunately this progress is offset by your MMO binge in the other thread. At best we are neutral.
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Hi OVERKILL I apologize for the delay on the posts.
I found 100% Black Tea with NO sugar (I checked the label..) I'm drinking that now. $1 a bottle. It's just "Tea, water, Citrus flavor" or something.
Core Power 26v protein after long jogs, sometimes..
AND I'm ready on Honda.
Cool?
Unfortunately this progress is offset by your MMO binge in the other thread. At best we are neutral.
That's cool... I just want to say in my defense that I only added half a quart, and if I was deaf to reason, I would have changed the oil, I had everything ready to go in the back of the Envoy XL!
Originally Posted By: InfmousCornholio
Hi OVERKILL I apologize for the delay on the posts.
I found 100% Black Tea with NO sugar (I checked the label..) I'm drinking that now. $1 a bottle. It's just "Tea, water, Citrus flavor" or something.
Core Power 26v protein after long jogs, sometimes..
AND I'm ready on Honda.
Cool?
Unfortunately this progress is offset by your MMO binge in the other thread. At best we are neutral.
That's cool... I just want to say in my defense that I only added half a quart, and if I was deaf to reason, I would have changed the oil, I had everything ready to go in the back of the Envoy XL!
OVERKILL
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For the winter, you probably would have just been best to change the oil, given the blend currently in the sump.
LOL!
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
For the winter, you probably would have just been best to change the oil, given the blend currently in the sump.
The oil in there IS going to be changed before the winter comes, it just brings us back to the issue of if it's 5W-30.
Most likely, though, I was in there once, a while ago.. I saw a lot of NAPA and Valvoline (white bottle) on his shelves.. I don't think he puts in oil from a drum. It said either 5W-30 or 10W-30 on the bottles, and yes there was plenty of 10W-40 laying around.
A couple of years ago, before my 5W and 0W-20 fixation that I've tried to apply to just about any vehicle that doesn't obviously not need it (like an E46 M3 from BMW..) I was very vocal, also with my Mom and Uncles, about "How on earth putting 10W-40 in that truck was BAD." Then I heard my Uncle drop in the "with Lucas" and I was like, "!!!!!!" This planted the seed to "secret" oil changes... So, at first, yeah, I might have went 5W-30. Then I lived away for a few years.
I come back and the truck is in good shape, and it took us to where I bought the 5W-20 instead of the 5W-30 and changed it. The new oil also looks fine, and it even didn't look that weird color when I put it in the waste oil receptacle at Advance Auto yesterday.. so all indications point to the motor being fine, and P0420 has stayed off for emissions, yes.
Though I did this near the end of the OCI and Mom will probably take it over there for a change, "before the inspection." Maybe she will let me put that one hubcap on, too. As long as it doesn't fly off...
OVERKILL, how much confidence should I have that he will put in 5W-30, "as he says he does when he tells Mom he puts in 'the thin stuff?'" I could set aside some of my resources to capture that oil, re-use it in other places like the Honda and Blazer, and put, oh.. a different oil in the Envoy XL, sure.. but, are you saying that I don't need to do all that?
Should we have faith that 5W-30 will be in there for the winter after seeing the technician????????????? OR can you se how I would want to KNOW this???????
No MMO next time, I also did that knowing the end of the oil was near...
For the winter, you probably would have just been best to change the oil, given the blend currently in the sump.
The oil in there IS going to be changed before the winter comes, it just brings us back to the issue of if it's 5W-30.
Most likely, though, I was in there once, a while ago.. I saw a lot of NAPA and Valvoline (white bottle) on his shelves.. I don't think he puts in oil from a drum. It said either 5W-30 or 10W-30 on the bottles, and yes there was plenty of 10W-40 laying around.
A couple of years ago, before my 5W and 0W-20 fixation that I've tried to apply to just about any vehicle that doesn't obviously not need it (like an E46 M3 from BMW..) I was very vocal, also with my Mom and Uncles, about "How on earth putting 10W-40 in that truck was BAD." Then I heard my Uncle drop in the "with Lucas" and I was like, "!!!!!!" This planted the seed to "secret" oil changes... So, at first, yeah, I might have went 5W-30. Then I lived away for a few years.
I come back and the truck is in good shape, and it took us to where I bought the 5W-20 instead of the 5W-30 and changed it. The new oil also looks fine, and it even didn't look that weird color when I put it in the waste oil receptacle at Advance Auto yesterday.. so all indications point to the motor being fine, and P0420 has stayed off for emissions, yes.
Though I did this near the end of the OCI and Mom will probably take it over there for a change, "before the inspection." Maybe she will let me put that one hubcap on, too. As long as it doesn't fly off...
OVERKILL, how much confidence should I have that he will put in 5W-30, "as he says he does when he tells Mom he puts in 'the thin stuff?'" I could set aside some of my resources to capture that oil, re-use it in other places like the Honda and Blazer, and put, oh.. a different oil in the Envoy XL, sure.. but, are you saying that I don't need to do all that?
Should we have faith that 5W-30 will be in there for the winter after seeing the technician????????????? OR can you se how I would want to KNOW this???????
No MMO next time, I also did that knowing the end of the oil was near...
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