Optimal EV Charging

110v gives you a measly 4 mph; almost worthless. I would not spend the extra for an EV if I were gonna use it that little. Unless I just wanted it, which is a reason many people use to justify their purchases.

I guess it could work, but if you needed to fuel up quickly, you would need to hit up a Supercharger. Alternatively, around here it is common to charge at work for a subsidized rate or even free.
Based on my experience, don't Mickey Mouse it; price in a 240v dedicated circuit or at least make sure your residence could add one.
The #1 reason EV owners go back to ICE is charging issues.

Good luck.

I assume you meant 4 miles of range, not mph, and if so per hour.
Her average daily commute is just over 40 kms round trip, so 32 miles of range gained at work, is more than her commute. I didn't realize they would gain that much plugged into 110. Wonderful news, it would cost us personally nothing more than the power used on raod trips.
If we need to top it off, plug it in at home to, and an occasional quick charge at some charge station, this sounds great.

96 miles of range, plugged into 110 at home is really good.
This sounds truly viable, now to find a cheap, small, reliable, fun to drive, 2 door ev.
 
Oh I've tried to get someone out to install the outlet. 1 company came out to give a quote. The rest aren't returning calls and the 1 company isn't now either. They said they were too booked on bigger jobs to do it soon even when we got the quote. I know it's not that involved. If I had to drive the car daily I'd be occasionally using public charging just to keep going. I think it may just because it's winter. I'm going to revisit this in spring, but I will not be buying a second EV until that happens anyway.

Where do you live.
My BFF, and a cousin are electricians, and would be able to hook you up.
 
They do that here too, but it's up to you to set the appointment with the electrical company. I just messaged one outside of town and got a message back in 10 minutes. They'll be here in 8 days. I think none of the companies in my small town want to deal with EVs. That's all I can figure.

Ignore my last message, just read this.
 
They do that here too, but it's up to you to set the appointment with the electrical company. I just messaged one outside of town and got a message back in 10 minutes. They'll be here in 8 days. I think none of the companies in my small town want to deal with EVs. That's all I can figure.
Glad to hear that you are moving forward. What size charging station are you planning for? I am in process of installing a 40 Amp or 9.6 KW station. That requires a 50 Amp breaker and 6/2 AWG wire. Any larger and you need heavier gauge wire and a larger breaker. Labor will be your biggest cost, followed by the copper wire and the breaker. This ignores the cost of the charging sation itself.
 
110v gives you a measly 4 mph; almost worthless.
You've mentioned this a few times before. My humble PHEV gains five miles of range per hour on a 110 VAC level 1 charger. Shouldn't any real EV gain at least that much if not a little more? FWIIW I have measured the power used by my level 1 charger and it maxes out at 1.38 KW. Perhaps there are some that go higher?
 
I still charge my Mach E with a 120 outlet in the garage. It works fine for me. I also have the Ford charger. I have run the wires to the subpanel and the Ford charger takes a 60 amp two pole breaker there. I just need to finish the connections. If I was having problems with the outlet charging it would probably give me a lot more incentive to finish the job.
 
Glad to hear that you are moving forward. What size charging station are you planning for? I am in process of installing a 40 Amp or 9.6 KW station. That requires a 50 Amp breaker and 6/2 AWG wire. Any larger and you need heavier gauge wire and a larger breaker. Labor will be your biggest cost, followed by the copper wire and the breaker. This ignores the cost of the charging sation itself.
Enough to do 30a at least. I believe that's the upper limit of the mobile charger. At this point I hadn't planned to install the actual Tesla home charger. I'll see what the electrician says when they come over. They said they do a lot of EV chargers so I'm sure I'll get some recommendations.
 
I still charge my Mach E with a 120 outlet in the garage. It works fine for me. I also have the Ford charger. I have run the wires to the subpanel and the Ford charger takes a 60 amp two pole breaker there. I just need to finish the connections. If I was having problems with the outlet charging it would probably give me a lot more incentive to finish the job.
I honestly think it would be fine for me in almost all cases, but I haven't tested driving it myself and I won't be driving an EV for my commute until we buy a second one. I think that would be a poor time to find out 120V is not enough occasionally and having two I definitely want the ability to fully charge overnight.
 
I honestly think it would be fine for me in almost all cases, but I haven't tested driving it myself and I won't be driving an EV for my commute until we buy a second one. I think that would be a poor time to find out 120V is not enough occasionally and having two I definitely want the ability to fully charge overnight.

Does your employer allow at work charging?
Free charging at work, even 110 volts, seems like an ideal situation if possible.

4 or 5 miles range per hour, in an 8 hour work day, plus lunch, offers a significant amount every day while working.

When I am working, my F150 rarely moves except on weekends, or maybe an occasional short trip to the grocery store during the week.
My personal vehicle does below the average mileage annually, but I drive well above average mileage, almost all in the logging truck.

What is currently the cheapest ev sold in Canada?
 
Does your employer allow at work charging?
Free charging at work, even 110 volts, seems like an ideal situation if possible.

4 or 5 miles range per hour, in an 8 hour work day, plus lunch, offers a significant amount every day while working.

When I am working, my F150 rarely moves except on weekends, or maybe an occasional short trip to the grocery store during the week.
My personal vehicle does below the average mileage annually, but I drive well above average mileage, almost all in the logging truck.

What is currently the cheapest ev sold in Canada?
I work on call and I might drive to another state and live out of hotels for a few days at a time. None of the hotels they contract with have chargers. None of the locations have parking near a building that would allow charging. It's all a variable though. I sometimes have to drive 150 miles one way and get a 4 hour window. The shorter 35 mile trip is a 2 hour call. I'm not worried about that one. The issue is if I had a trip that drains it and I get home low and plug in. I'm only guaranteed 10 hours off after my drive time until they can call me again. If I get called out for the 150 mile trip again I might need public charging while responding and that would shoot a good size hole in my travel time.

Basically my lack of schedule is the problem more than the charging. 240V at home solves all of it really. I can take my time traveling back and I'm paid for that. That's when I want to do any necessary public charging.
 
Indefinitely at this point, which translates basically "when maintenance exceeds viability ". Id like to get 8 years out of it. That would put it at about 250k mi.
Looking forward to checking back in 8 years and 250k.
 
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You've mentioned this a few times before. My humble PHEV gains five miles of range per hour on a 110 VAC level 1 charger. Shouldn't any real EV gain at least that much if not a little more? FWIIW I have measured the power used by my level 1 charger and it maxes out at 1.38 KW. Perhaps there are some that go higher?
I'm no ev expert. But a plug in hybrid EV battery should be significantly smaller than a real EV, so yes yours should charge faster. Just like a phone with a smaller battery would charge faster given the same charging watts.
 
I'm no ev expert. But a plug in hybrid EV battery should be significantly smaller than a real EV, so yes yours should charge faster. Just like a phone with a smaller battery would charge faster given the same charging watts.
Its true. For me I think there's too much compromise in feel in hybrids. Don't get me wrong I want efficiency, but I don't want it to lull me to sleep either. If I want efficiency, speed, and engagement in a small car, there's a lot better options for me than a hybrid. I like EVs too, but there's certain things EVs do in feel that you just can't get in a hybrid either. I understand why hybrids are popular, but the things that make them popular in livability in my experience yank all the fun and fizz out of them.
 
I work on call and I might drive to another state and live out of hotels for a few days at a time. None of the hotels they contract with have chargers. None of the locations have parking near a building that would allow charging. It's all a variable though. I sometimes have to drive 150 miles one way and get a 4 hour window. The shorter 35 mile trip is a 2 hour call. I'm not worried about that one. The issue is if I had a trip that drains it and I get home low and plug in. I'm only guaranteed 10 hours off after my drive time until they can call me again. If I get called out for the 150 mile trip again I might need public charging while responding and that would shoot a good size hole in my travel time.

Basically my lack of schedule is the problem more than the charging. 240V at home solves all of it really. I can take my time traveling back and I'm paid for that. That's when I want to do any necessary public charging.


Your job would definitely make it a challenge, that is awkward at best.
My fiance has a very regular commute, 41 to 44 kms per day, depending if she runs an extra errand such as grocery shopping, going to the bank, or such.
More than likely she could charge it once a week, and do her thing, but if the car was low on charge, she has a gas motor 2022 Ram 1500 to drive, which would also be used regularly in winter on storm days, as a low ground clearance car is limited to plowed roads.
 
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You've mentioned this a few times before. My humble PHEV gains five miles of range per hour on a 110 VAC level 1 charger. Shouldn't any real EV gain at least that much if not a little more? FWIIW I have measured the power used by my level 1 charger and it maxes out at 1.38 KW. Perhaps there are some that go higher?
I've heard 4 mph and 5 mph @110v. Both are too slow in my opinion. I'm sure it works for some owners, but it is just too limiting for me.
I used a NEMA 14-50 receptacle on a dedicated 50A circuit for 5 years; earlier this year I installed a Tesla Wall Charger. Zero regrets.
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I've heard 4 mph and 5 mph @110v. Both are too slow in my opinion. I'm sure it works for some owners, but it is just too limiting for me.
I used a NEMA 14-50 receptacle on a dedicated 50A circuit for 5 years; earlier this year I installed a Tesla Wall Charger. Zero regrets.
I'm still using a NEMA 14-50 receptacle on a dedicated 40A 220 Volt circuit. Works fine for me especially as I'm now charging at only 25A/hr. [Which is plenty fast enough for my usage.]

Using the Tesla charge cable with a Tesla 14-50 adapter works just fine. I think that's what you used to use too. What advantage was there to adding the Tesla Wall Charger?
 
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