Has anyone had Open Office Update auto download? It's done it twice - 85 megs! And both times it was corrupted. It happens when I open a spreadsheet or word file...
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Wouldn't it be easier to just run Office 2003 and call it a day? It's a Microsoft World after all..
I've run into that once. Try in a couple days. Sounds like the download mirrored servers have a mirrored copy or some other error.
3rd time was the charm. Works fine with all my spreadsheets and docs. The beni of this update is speed. Click fast.
Originally Posted By: toocrazy2yoo
Wouldn't it be easier to just run Office 2003 and call it a day? It's a Microsoft World after all..
Yes, if you have $300 or more dollars to spend on software. If you are a casual office user, then you will not know the difference between Open Office and MS Office.
Wouldn't it be easier to just run Office 2003 and call it a day? It's a Microsoft World after all..
Yes, if you have $300 or more dollars to spend on software. If you are a casual office user, then you will not know the difference between Open Office and MS Office.
Originally Posted By: tmorris1
Originally Posted By: toocrazy2yoo
Wouldn't it be easier to just run Office 2003 and call it a day? It's a Microsoft World after all..
Yes, if you have $300 or more dollars to spend on software. If you are a casual office user, then you will not know the difference between Open Office and MS Office.
I'm probably a click above the casual user and I do know the difference. Open Office is simply better AND it's free.
Originally Posted By: toocrazy2yoo
Wouldn't it be easier to just run Office 2003 and call it a day? It's a Microsoft World after all..
Yes, if you have $300 or more dollars to spend on software. If you are a casual office user, then you will not know the difference between Open Office and MS Office.
I'm probably a click above the casual user and I do know the difference. Open Office is simply better AND it's free.
My employer probably wouldn't be happy with me using M$ software, when Star Office is an internally source product, LOL.
Have used OpenOffice for years and before retirement did much work at home using OpenOffice and would save the work in M$ format and take into work where we use Microsoft Office.
Had no issues with it and use it both in a Linux and Windows XP - Vista environment.
Had no issues with it and use it both in a Linux and Windows XP - Vista environment.
Originally Posted By: Pablo
Has anyone had Open Office Update auto download? It's done it twice - 85 megs! And both times it was corrupted. It happens when I open a spreadsheet or word file...
Is it an obvious problem (every time), or is it a sneaky one (sometimes)?
I do manual updates a month or so after a new version comes out.
Has anyone had Open Office Update auto download? It's done it twice - 85 megs! And both times it was corrupted. It happens when I open a spreadsheet or word file...
Is it an obvious problem (every time), or is it a sneaky one (sometimes)?
I do manual updates a month or so after a new version comes out.
Open Office is great. It works and looks almost identically to MS. It's free. I save files in Excel or MS word format, no biggie. Why would I want to give MS more money for something I can get for free? I can generate HTML docs, make drawings with the graphics program, create forms and nice looking documents. This isn't a primitive or basic piece of software, it's stable and full featured and it has a familiar user interface.
OpenOffice always ran good for me. It would be nice if GIMP could really compete with Photoshop.
You can get Microsoft Office 2007 for $150.00 in the case of the Home and Student or Student and Teacher version or whatever they call it. It is different than the older versions but once you get used to it I think you will like it.
I am getting more and more discouraged by Open Source software. I have found that Firefox allows more cookies through than Internet Explorer 7. Explorer is more advanced and will allow session cookies to run but not third party cookies.
There is some free stuff that works pretty good like OpenOffice, AVG free antivirus, etc.
You can get Microsoft Office 2007 for $150.00 in the case of the Home and Student or Student and Teacher version or whatever they call it. It is different than the older versions but once you get used to it I think you will like it.
I am getting more and more discouraged by Open Source software. I have found that Firefox allows more cookies through than Internet Explorer 7. Explorer is more advanced and will allow session cookies to run but not third party cookies.
There is some free stuff that works pretty good like OpenOffice, AVG free antivirus, etc.
Originally Posted By: toocrazy2yoo
...It's a Microsoft World after all..
Really? Could you elaborate on that?
...It's a Microsoft World after all..
Really? Could you elaborate on that?
Originally Posted By: Mystic
OpenOffice always ran good for me. It would be nice if GIMP could really compete with Photoshop.
You can get Microsoft Office 2007 for $150.00 in the case of the Home and Student or Student and Teacher version or whatever they call it. It is different than the older versions but once you get used to it I think you will like it.
I am getting more and more discouraged by Open Source software. I have found that Firefox allows more cookies through than Internet Explorer 7. Explorer is more advanced and will allow session cookies to run but not third party cookies.
There is some free stuff that works pretty good like OpenOffice, AVG free antivirus, etc.
The Gimp which has been ported to Windows works well for my needs and is used professionally by many.
Firefox can also be setup to remove all history, cookies, etc., when you shut it down or when you click on "Clear Private Data".
Just go to Firefox Preferences and Security. + Settings and check Cookies.
I have used OpenOffice for many years without issue.
Both programs serve me well in both Linux and Windows without issue.
Cookies are not necessarily bad things.
OpenOffice always ran good for me. It would be nice if GIMP could really compete with Photoshop.
You can get Microsoft Office 2007 for $150.00 in the case of the Home and Student or Student and Teacher version or whatever they call it. It is different than the older versions but once you get used to it I think you will like it.
I am getting more and more discouraged by Open Source software. I have found that Firefox allows more cookies through than Internet Explorer 7. Explorer is more advanced and will allow session cookies to run but not third party cookies.
There is some free stuff that works pretty good like OpenOffice, AVG free antivirus, etc.
The Gimp which has been ported to Windows works well for my needs and is used professionally by many.
Firefox can also be setup to remove all history, cookies, etc., when you shut it down or when you click on "Clear Private Data".
Just go to Firefox Preferences and Security. + Settings and check Cookies.
I have used OpenOffice for many years without issue.
Both programs serve me well in both Linux and Windows without issue.
Cookies are not necessarily bad things.
Originally Posted By: Mystic
OpenOffice always ran good for me. It would be nice if GIMP could really compete with Photoshop.
Have you tried Gimpshop? It's a Photoshop like interface for The Gimp. I haven't tried it, but some like it.
OpenOffice always ran good for me. It would be nice if GIMP could really compete with Photoshop.
Have you tried Gimpshop? It's a Photoshop like interface for The Gimp. I haven't tried it, but some like it.
Originally Posted By: XS650
Originally Posted By: Mystic
OpenOffice always ran good for me. It would be nice if GIMP could really compete with Photoshop.
Have you tried Gimpshop? It's a Photoshop like interface for The Gimp. I haven't tried it, but some like it.
Thanks for the info! Found the web site and will give it a try.
Link To Gimpshop
Originally Posted By: Mystic
OpenOffice always ran good for me. It would be nice if GIMP could really compete with Photoshop.
Have you tried Gimpshop? It's a Photoshop like interface for The Gimp. I haven't tried it, but some like it.
Thanks for the info! Found the web site and will give it a try.
Link To Gimpshop
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Originally Posted By: toocrazy2yoo
...It's a Microsoft World after all..
Really? Could you elaborate on that?
Sure! It is what I said it is. It's a Microsoft world. In partnership with Intel of course, but overall, it's a Microsoft World. In corporate, in Government, most education scenarios, everywhere really, it's Windows, Microsoft Office, Internet Explorer (or it's derivatives, I'll confess to being a FireFox user here). Most networking is done on MS Server, and most apps that tie into if do so through MS Back Office.
I know, I know, 2% (or whatever) use Corel/OpenOffice, etc., etc. I know, I know, lots of enterprise servers are on Linux. 5 or 7 or 10% use a Mac instead of a PC. But overall? I'll say it again.
It's a Microsoft world.
Originally Posted By: toocrazy2yoo
...It's a Microsoft World after all..
Really? Could you elaborate on that?
Sure! It is what I said it is. It's a Microsoft world. In partnership with Intel of course, but overall, it's a Microsoft World. In corporate, in Government, most education scenarios, everywhere really, it's Windows, Microsoft Office, Internet Explorer (or it's derivatives, I'll confess to being a FireFox user here). Most networking is done on MS Server, and most apps that tie into if do so through MS Back Office.
I know, I know, 2% (or whatever) use Corel/OpenOffice, etc., etc. I know, I know, lots of enterprise servers are on Linux. 5 or 7 or 10% use a Mac instead of a PC. But overall? I'll say it again.
It's a Microsoft world.
I don't know how anybody can disagree that at least when it comes to personal desktop computers Microsoft rules. In the USA Apple is probably now something like 8% of the market and appears to be going up. Maybe Apple will be 10% of the market in a relatively short time. The best anybody can determine Linux is something like 1% or less of PERSONAL desktop computers. It is necessary to keep saying that because some people confuse server computers with personal desktop computers.
So in the USA Microsoft is probably still some 91% of PERSONAL desktop computer operating systems. In the world as a whole Microsoft probably has an even bigger share of the market since Apple is about 3-5% of the worldwide market. Whatever you do don't expect to get accurate numbers at the Linux websites. When I was thinking about switching to Linux several years ago I discovered that trying to find accurate information at Linux fan websites was like expecting the return of Windows ME.
It was not a Microsoft fan who discovered that the percentage of Linux PERSONAL computers in the USA was something like less than 1% of the market. It was a Macintosh Apple guy who did the study. I can't remember the website. At the time of the study Apple was discovered to be about 6.5% of the market. It has apparently increased to 8% of the market today for Apple Computers. Even if Apple goes to 15% of the market Microsoft will still rule the desktop personal computer operating system world.
Servers are a different story since there are Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, BSD, Unix, and other kinds of servers. Linux does have a slice of the server market. But anybody who tells you that Linux totally dominates the server market is either lying or does not know what they are talking about. There are still lots of Unix servers, and Microsoft has a considerable slice of the server market no matter what the Linux fanatics say. There are probably an increasing number of Mac OS X servers.
Anybody who thinks that Microsoft will be less than about 80% of the personal computer operating system market anytime in the immediate future is flat out dreaming. Even if Apple climbs to 15% of the market and even if Linux can somehow rise above 1% of the market it is clear to anybody who can think clearly that Microsoft will dominate for the forseeable future.
Even if Microsoft Windows Vista is a complete failure (I personally like Vista although it could fail if sales are not great enough) it would probably take at least 5 years for Microsoft to see any major decline.
Here is what should be a sobering statistic for the Apple and Linux fans-there are some 1 BILLION personal computers in the world and the vast majority of those computers use some version of Windows. If Microsoft went out of business tomorrow morning it would probably take 10 years or so before the number of Windows computers went into a serious decline.
And Apple will not allow their operating system to run on Windows computers. Linux can run on Windows computers (you have to check that every component will work with Linux) but the Linux people will have to offer a decent operating system to get people to switch. I gave up waiting for that to happen 5 years ago.
If something happened to Microsoft it would probably be Apple that replaced Microsoft. How long would it take for Apple to build 1 billion personal computers? They are currently building some 10-12 million computers a year I believe. I don't know the exact figures.
Let us say that the dream of the Microsoft haters comes true and Microsoft collapses. Apple starts to build 100 million computers a year (it would take time to build the factories). After the factories were built it would still take 10 years to replace the personal computers in the world today.
You are right. It the world of personal desktop computers it is a Microsoft world.
So in the USA Microsoft is probably still some 91% of PERSONAL desktop computer operating systems. In the world as a whole Microsoft probably has an even bigger share of the market since Apple is about 3-5% of the worldwide market. Whatever you do don't expect to get accurate numbers at the Linux websites. When I was thinking about switching to Linux several years ago I discovered that trying to find accurate information at Linux fan websites was like expecting the return of Windows ME.
It was not a Microsoft fan who discovered that the percentage of Linux PERSONAL computers in the USA was something like less than 1% of the market. It was a Macintosh Apple guy who did the study. I can't remember the website. At the time of the study Apple was discovered to be about 6.5% of the market. It has apparently increased to 8% of the market today for Apple Computers. Even if Apple goes to 15% of the market Microsoft will still rule the desktop personal computer operating system world.
Servers are a different story since there are Linux, Windows, Mac OS X, BSD, Unix, and other kinds of servers. Linux does have a slice of the server market. But anybody who tells you that Linux totally dominates the server market is either lying or does not know what they are talking about. There are still lots of Unix servers, and Microsoft has a considerable slice of the server market no matter what the Linux fanatics say. There are probably an increasing number of Mac OS X servers.
Anybody who thinks that Microsoft will be less than about 80% of the personal computer operating system market anytime in the immediate future is flat out dreaming. Even if Apple climbs to 15% of the market and even if Linux can somehow rise above 1% of the market it is clear to anybody who can think clearly that Microsoft will dominate for the forseeable future.
Even if Microsoft Windows Vista is a complete failure (I personally like Vista although it could fail if sales are not great enough) it would probably take at least 5 years for Microsoft to see any major decline.
Here is what should be a sobering statistic for the Apple and Linux fans-there are some 1 BILLION personal computers in the world and the vast majority of those computers use some version of Windows. If Microsoft went out of business tomorrow morning it would probably take 10 years or so before the number of Windows computers went into a serious decline.
And Apple will not allow their operating system to run on Windows computers. Linux can run on Windows computers (you have to check that every component will work with Linux) but the Linux people will have to offer a decent operating system to get people to switch. I gave up waiting for that to happen 5 years ago.
If something happened to Microsoft it would probably be Apple that replaced Microsoft. How long would it take for Apple to build 1 billion personal computers? They are currently building some 10-12 million computers a year I believe. I don't know the exact figures.
Let us say that the dream of the Microsoft haters comes true and Microsoft collapses. Apple starts to build 100 million computers a year (it would take time to build the factories). After the factories were built it would still take 10 years to replace the personal computers in the world today.
You are right. It the world of personal desktop computers it is a Microsoft world.
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