Oil question?

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Hi guys i have a 500cc scooter with no clutch(automatic) My manual says to use an sj rated oil! I just bought a few quarts of castrol 10w40 motorcycle oil for the first 500mile oil change and it says sg,sh on the back. Can I use it in my bike?? I didnt want to go to a synthetic yet and am just curious if this stuff will hurt my bike??

Thank you all for your input!!
 
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Castrol 10W-40 motorcycle oil is probably the worst oil you can put in your scooter.
Why not use an HDEO, like Rotella?
I'd either return that Castrol or take it to your oil recycling depot.
If you're intent on using the Castrol, I guess it's better than using waste cooking oil from a McDonald's deep fryer, but not by much.
 
Thanks i appreciate your help! I was just looking for something cheap to keep in for 500 miles or so untill i can switch it to amsoil or Mobil 1!
 
Bigbird is correct and gave good advice.

Scooters inherently run pretty high/semi constant rpms due to the CVT. Although not a shared sump, it still takes it's toll on most oils in a short time. This makes them the perfect candidates for HDEO's - as they are very tough and very shear-stable by nature. As another plus, they're great cleaners and will keep one clean at the same time.

Something about OCI's - you might want to change oil a couple of times relatively soon. You would be very suprised to see how much metal comes out initially (metal slurry) - looks like glitter in the sunlight. Whether left over from initial assembly or initial break-in doesn't matter. Those small flakes of metal are causing unneeded wear that you don't want. It needs to come out, since most scooters don't have an oil filter - just a gravel screen. Scooters are also great candidates for Magnetic Drain Plugs too.

I change my oil in a new scooters at 30, 60, 100, and 250 miles (I know but it doesn't take much oil anyway) and there is always glitter in the first 3. Sometimes the 250-mile OC is unnecessary but it's the only way to be sure.

If yours is a Chinese scooter - Do not run one long at all on the shipping oil (they call it break-in oil) - it's junk and will shorten overall engine life. It is very cheap and incredibly poor quality - all it does is keep one from rusting during oversea's shipping. Change it out immediately.

With that being said, I change oil in mine every 1,000 miles (once again no filter) reguardless of what my manual says. On my Honda Metropolitan, Honda recommends a 2500-mile OCI - nope, not in mine and not without a filter!

I usually run a steady diet of Rotella T 15w40 for Summer and Rotella T6 (5w40) in the Winter. These are great oils at a good price and available about everywhere (wal-mart). Technically, the T6 is considered a synthetic, but I use it in cold weather for easier start-up.

Speaking of synthetics, no problem using them at all. I would just wait until my first couple of short OCI's are done - no need to waste it. Actually, you can go ahead and use T6 year-round with no problems at all, I just have a few gallons of Rotella T stashed that i'm going through right now. Performance-wise I really can't tell any difference between the two though.

Hope this helps. BTW, is it really 500cc's or 50cc's?
 
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Originally Posted By: Scooter_man
Actually, you can go ahead and use T6 year-round with no problems at all, I just have a few gallons of Rotella T stashed that I'm going through right now. Performance-wise I really can't tell any difference between the two though.
I can tell a big difference in how quickly my bike starts, especially cold. I also THINK I get better lubrication for the first minute or so with the 5W-40 fluid.
 
Hey guys thanks for the replies!! Yes, the scooter is a 500cc, it is a Kymco xciting 500,and does indeed have an oil filter. If this changes any advice you have,please let me know! Thank you all so much!!
 
mrjlube - great, sounds like a lot of fun. Kymco is one of the better companies out there - should provide a long life and a lot of miles. The fact that it does have an actual oil filter is a plus too, but i'd still be tempted to change the oil and filter at 250 then again at 500 (just me).

T6 is still a great choice, and Amsoil and Mobil both make excellent oils as well - but i'm a long time Rotella fan so don't worry about that too much.



George - in the summer I have no problems either way 5w vs 15w, but as soon as cool weather sets in - big difference. That's when the 15w comes out and T6 goes in.

I'm not sure about quicker lubrication on the 5w as it is thinner and pumps a little quicker (theoretically), but the 15w being a littler thicker might leave a thicker/heavier film for next time. Just my thoughts/theories, no proven facts either way.
 
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