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Well nitrile is not bad. Just silicone is better. The vehicle only goes for 6000 OCI (6000 and then when I get around to it). I mean it's a Crosstrek, not my babied PSD.Safe bet it's nitrile.
Well nitrile is not bad. Just silicone is better. The vehicle only goes for 6000 OCI (6000 and then when I get around to it). I mean it's a Crosstrek, not my babied PSD.Safe bet it's nitrile.
Merely giving a response to your query(?), no judgement beyond that.Well nitrile is not bad.......
And made in the USA. I am sure many countries can make quality filters besides the USA. But made in China is more likely to be cheaply made.Baldwin is old school, not a lot of lines of filters to upsell, or any, in the consumer grade. You get the Baldwin oil filter, simple.
That is actually a great marketing idea.What China brands?
To bad it has horrible efficiency. 45 absolute…..I’m sure it doesn’t have a Subaru bypass spec for those that want it.Found this at the Parker Hannafin lookup. Looks a bit Jobber. Wonder if its short on media area <100sqin ?
I have a sinking feeling we did this exercise 2 weeks ago with someone else ...
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Subaru older service part (Blue Painted Fram) had black (nitrile)adbv, where the similar Honda (Blue Painted Fram) had an orange adbv, IIRC. These 7317 size filters are widely used on most all Asian cars-Well nitrile is not bad. Just silicone is better. The vehicle only goes for 6000 OCI (6000 and then when I get around to it). I mean it's a Crosstrek, not my babied PSD.
Great idea! Yeah, something even more Chinese like ChInEa or even 机油滤清器 = Oil Filter. Have fun with it.That is actually a great marketing idea.
No need to come up with some clunky name for a chinesium product. Just be honest and call it "China Brand".
They also do rebranded industry filters …I have not seen Baldwin with any type of premium line. What I have seen though with Baldwin is that they will make a filter for an application with a tighter spec that other filter makers would just reference a standard filter because it is close enough.
An example would be that most Ford application that use the Motorcraft FL-910S, many filter makers would just recommend their PH3614 compatible filter. Baldwin actually makes and recommends for Ford applications with the FL-910S, their B7491 oil filter that has better filter efficiency media and a silicone ADBV. Baldwins lesser equivalent they would recommend for other applications in the same size would be the B1405 with less efficient media and a nitrile ADBV.
So Baldwin does react to an actual technical market need if the application requires it. They just don't do the "Good, Better & Best" separate lines like other direct consumer brands since they are mainly an industrial/commercial supply marketed brand.
My understanding was that Casite was Hastings jobber brand prior to Clarcor buying Hastings and rolling into its manufacturing with Baldwin that they already owned. From that point on, every Hastings labeled filter was a white canned Baldwin for all intents.Baldwin was the premium brand, Hastings was the middle brand and Casite was the value or jobber brand.
But do they actually need to be more efficient? I have said it before that the chase for “better efficiency” seems to be more for marketing to retail consumer end users to sell higher margin priced filters than actual technical need by the vehicle/engine manufacturers calling for it.I assume they could use better filter media if they choose to.
In my observation of Baldwin filter efficiencies, never been known for a high efficiency 'rating.' That said, fwiw my 'speculation' that rating is at least as good the Suby OEMs, maybe a tad better. I base that on what's known about Asian OEM filter efficiencies in general. At this point, just use the purchased Baldwins and don't overthink it.Well I emailed Baldwin and they confirmed it's 45 micron absolute. I wonder why. I assume they could use better filter media if they choose to.
There are different car brands using the same size oil filter in quite a few cases. So they pick the best OE filter of the many brands to duplicate? I don’t think that makes sense that happens.From someone at Baldwin who answered my email.
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The media used in any filter we produce is based off of the media analysis performed on the OE filter during the development or our product. Yes, we have medias that have absolute ratings at smaller particle sizes. However, as you tighten up the media to increase efficiency as smaller particles, you begin to sacrifice contaminant holding capacity.
If you do wish to use a filter with a smaller micron rating, the B7318 is the same size filter with similar features and it is 27 micron absolute. Please see he performance data below.
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Please understand that using filters other than what we list for the application may void the warranty on the application of the filter.
About the part in bold. That's true, like seen with the Boss and Wix XP ... their efficiency isn't good, but have a decent holding capacity and therefore a good "up to miles" rating - they are often advertised and long OCI filters.From someone at Baldwin who answered my email.
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The media used in any filter we produce is based off of the media analysis performed on the OE filter during the development or our product. Yes, we have medias that have absolute ratings at smaller particle sizes. However, as you tighten up the media to increase efficiency as smaller particles, you begin to sacrifice contaminant holding capacity.