Oil filter magnets again

[UncleDave]

In between screaming sessions Scotty needs to learn about ISO codes.

If indeed filtermags claim of a full code drop or greater is true (we have all kinds of evidence here it is) than a properly placed strong enough magnet(s) effect is substantial.


UD

 

[Trav]

Originally Posted By: RamFan
Can someone please tell Scotty to lay off the coke before doing his videos!?


Yep he really does need to back up on that crack pipe just a tad. I remember when he took a breaker bar to a oil drain plug.

I mean maybe he does have the feel for it but some his viewers see that and they may imitate it.

 

[Leo99]

 

[Garak]

I had to use a breaker bar on a buddy's Cummins once. Some darned fool obviously used an impact or something. But, yes, I guess I had the feel for it. I didn't grab the breaker bar as the first tool and think this was a great idea.

 

[i_hate_autofraud]

I use a combo of bar magnets inside and outside a spin-on filter plus a
pair of honkin’ big FilterMags! My oil stays clean for 7-8 months before
it darkens and the UOA shows Iron is down 50% and all other metals dropped
too.

The PPMs test is very thorough so getting a 50% reduction is a big deal, based on others here
who did a ISO particle count with a single FilterMag, I sure I'll get the same or better!

If you want to use a pair of FilterMags, be sure there’s ¾” clearance all around, ie some
Filters are very close to the engine block, etc.

There’s a good PDF with pics with cut open filters: ( I wish I thought of this yrs ago!)

FILTERMAG vs HOMEBREW
https://app.box.com/s/uxvu8dmscf5wcgftutdm0ejqwgn86tw7

 

[toneydoc]

My Harley has some small magnetic centerpiece on my drain plugs. It always has some small debris/particles. Not sure if that small amount of debris would get caught in filter or not. Never even worried about it.
I wipe them clean everytime and then install. Never had a problem with any Harley engine. If I ever had one go bad, I would just say [censored] it and go get another bike.
Only problem I got is not enough time to ride more.

 

[blupupher]

Does not hurt anything to use them, may help to use them.
I have a bunch of hard drive magnets laying around, so I stick those on the outside of my filters. It catches stuff, so makes me feel all warm and fuzzy.

Scotty is interesting, and gives good advice, from the 80's.

Although I did use the tip he gave to use Nu Finish on the windshield, and it works amazing.


And I also agree on his choice of brake pads (Akebono):

 

[Trav]

The best brake pads in the world for one car may not be the same for another.

 

[alarmguy]

Originally Posted By: sprite1741
I think oil filter magnets are so stupid, Scotty agrees. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSBBUgpJSW4


Its ok, dont worry about it, some people believe some motor oils with the same API rating are better then the other based on no scientific evidence and nothing but marketing. Some people believe one type of oil filter is better then the other by what looks best in a photo.

Its ok, some people actually believe having dirty metal laden oil is better then well filtered oil

Fact = Magnets are a permanent cost free way (after initial purchase) to remove hard metals from your oil.
Its easy to see the magnets actually and factually remove metal from the oil with your own two eyes vs nothing but [censored] on any other type of filter or oil yet people question their own vision for hype from people who will convince you what your two eyes see is wrong.

Anyone can do whatever floats their boat.

(no, I didnt bother watching the you tube, some people believe anything they see or read in the media as fact)

 

[goodtimes]

Drain plug magnet is good. I wouldn't use a magnet on an oil filter with a bypass built in. Don't know how much iron will stay put on the magnet under varying flow events.

 

[i_hate_autofraud]

Originally Posted By: goodtimes
Drain plug magnet is good. I wouldn't use a magnet on an oil filter with a bypass built in. Don't know how much iron will stay put on the magnet under varying flow events.



I wondered the same thing, but after 4 yrs and lots of cut open filters, there's no effect to the bypass.

Magnets applied around the outside of a spin-on filter near the open end or middle holds lots, since
oil flow seeks the shortest, easiest path thru the filter, so filtering action and flow at the closed
end of the filter will be least. End cap magnets do almost nothing, tried it.
In short anything you catch is better then catching none at all!

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

I'm kind of on the fence about oil filter magnets. A lot of internal engine parts are aluminum. And, as we all know, aluminum is not magnetic. So, in a way, I feel an oil filter magnet is redundant. As far as the metal particles, the filter media should be able to do its job catching it.
Flame suit on!

 

[ZeeOSix]

Lots of rubbing engine parts are ferrous steel. Those ferrous wear metal particles are very small (less than 20 microns), so you'd have to use a very efficient oil filter to catch as many as possible. Even a 99% @ 20u filter will still let some of those through, but a much less efficient filter (50% @ 20u) probably lets the majority through. So IMO, a magnet will still help in both cases.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Lots of rubbing engine parts are ferrous steel. Those ferrous wear metal particles are very small (less than 20 microns), so you'd have to use a very efficient oil filter to catch as many as possible. Even a 99% @ 20u filter will still let some of those through, but a much less efficient filter (50% @ 20u) probably lets the majority through. So IMO, a magnet will still help in both cases.

Well, I "GUESS" you "MIGHT" be correct. But, do you use them on your oil filters?

 

[ZeeOSix]

I use a magnetic drain plug in all my vehicles. I have also used magnets (not very good ones) on the oil filter can, but seemed to get more collected on a good magnetic drain plug instead. I'd rather have this crud on the magnet then going round and round through the engine.

Tacoma at 4K miles (during break-in)


Tacoma at 45K miles - about 1/4 the amount of captured crud

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
I use a magnetic drain plug in all my vehicles. I have also used magnets (not very good ones) on the oil filter can, but seemed to get more collected on a good magnetic drain plug instead. I'd rather have this crud on the magnet then going round and round through the engine.

Okay, okay, any more beating me down I will be a pulp!

I have used magnetic drain plugs in the past, but really haven't ever thought about using them again. I "MIGHT" be able to squander up the few extra measly pennies it takes to buy one for my engine.

Seriously, I just thought that using filter magnets made about as much sense as a submarine with a screen door.

 

[i_hate_autofraud]

Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I'm kind of on the fence about oil filter magnets. A lot of internal engine parts are aluminum. And, as we all know, aluminum is not magnetic. So, in a way, I feel an oil filter magnet is redundant. As far as the metal particles, the filter media should be able to do its job catching it.
Flame suit on!

It's a fair concern, I found that all my metals dropped in the UOA once I put on a FilterMag then later added a second
and bar mags where ever there was space! Interesting, the oil looked cleaner for months before turning dark,
this means all the different wear metals turns the oil black, not the "dirt" oil and filter makers want us to
believe! I say that as it applies to a late model car, not a 1960 or 70s car with tons of blow by and old leaded gas, etc!

 

[harry j]

Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I'm kind of on the fence about oil filter magnets. A lot of internal engine parts are aluminum. And, as we all know, aluminum is not magnetic. So, in a way, I feel an oil filter magnet is redundant. As far as the metal particles, the filter media should be able to do its job catching it.
Flame suit on!

All the more reason to use strong magnetic oil filtration. Those little steel particles will gouge the soft

Aluminum. I will have 500,000 miles soon on my Civic and attribute that partly to effective magnetic oil

filtration.

 

[CR94]

Originally Posted By: harry j
... I will have 500,000 miles soon on my Civic and attribute that partly to effective magnetic oil filtration.
To what should I attribute my Mazda (below) going farther than that with no magnetic filtration and no bearing issues?

 

[Hootbro]

In the automotive world, Scotty Kilmer is largely a buffoon. 99% of the actual knowledge he knows on cars was from the mid 1970's technology and back when he learned to be mechanic in a shop his dad owned at the time and later he took over and left the shop floor. The electronic age of vehicles from the mid 1980's through today, Scotty takes stabbing guess and make wildly inaccurate statements most time because he is truly pig ignorant of a lot of current tech in vehicle.

Like someone mentioned, his little snippet videos are bombastic entertainment that only attracts the marginally ignorant like himself. His more character than informative.