OIL ANALYSIS LABS??

[BOBISTHEOILGUY]

Larry,

Welcome to the site.

As for which lab... What I recommend is to find one that suites you and then stick with it.

The big thing and with a PSD, you should get one that supplies tbn(usually and extra charge).
If no tbn, the You need to make sure that oxidation,nitration,soot level,sulfur levels are all covered.

Once you found one, then do a trend analysis as this is what will help you see in consistent manner what is out of place. Changing from one to another means different equipment and such is used and those calibrations can result in different results.

If you get a chance, Plug in the numbers on a thread so we can all look at them. I find it interesting to see how each hold up under the different conditions, especially once a trend is started.

bob

 

[Terry]

Larry, I'm biased by my offering both a low cost alternative for oil analysis + high quality interpretation service. I outsource through contract labs I have hired and personally verifed for accuracy and quality control. If our lab can't meet that I change labs. I also offer interpretation of your own source lab results for $10 each test. Our Kit is $25 US funds. It is more than comprehensive for the needs you stated above.Some of our work is posted under this Oil Analysis Reports section.

See our add here on bobs site.

Email is [email protected]

[ July 28, 2002, 05:08 PM: Message edited by: BOBISTHEOILGUY ]

 

[Terry]

Name is Dyson Analysis.

 

[larry K.]

Bob, thanks for the welcome.
My first question, what is "tbn"?
Second, I heard mentioned "dino oil", what is that?

Terry, thanks also for your quick reply. Bob mentioned "trend analysis", I understand, kinds like the PSA blood test. They look for a change over a period of time. I thought it was also interesting, bobs comments about using the same lab all the time. From what I gather your company uses any lab that meets your spects but maynot be the same lab from sample to sample. I realize that one lab may have multiple equipment and samples may be run on different equipment there also. But by using your kits it seems my chances of different equipment being used is greater.

Larry

 

[Patman]

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Originally posted by larry K.:
Bob, thanks for the welcome.
My first question, what is "tbn"?
Second, I heard mentioned "dino oil", what is that?

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Dino oil is simply a nickname for conventional oil, dino being short for dinosaur.

TBN stands for total base number and is basically a number that tells you how much acid
fighting ability is left in the oil. A low number indicates that the oil's additive package is
depleted to the point where it cannot clean as well, or neutralize acids as effectively. Without
this number on an oil analysis, it's harder to determine what kind of condition the oil is in and
it's harder to make an oil interval recommendation as well.

 

[larry K.]

Patman, thanks. Simple answers to simple questions.

Isn't it great?

Larry K.

 

[Bio-T]

larry k,
What Terry is saying is that if the lab that does his work does not maintain the standards that he demands, he will change labs to one that will meet his standards. And after using his services for 2 analysis, I can assure you he is thorough in every aspect.
If you already have OA prepaid kits, send your oil to OA and when you get your sheet back sent it with $10 to Dyson Analysis for a very comprehensive review and recommendations. Heck, I can read numbers, but putting it all together is the hard part. I'll use a proffessional for that aspect.

 

[larry K.]

I'm fairly new to the site, maybe a month. I'm confused on this whole oil analysis thing. Which labs to use and do higher costs get you more or better lab readings?.

I'm driving a Ford Powerstroke with 277K miles on it. I recently cleaned the engine with Auto-Rx and in the process of switching to Amsoil series 3000 5w-30 oil with a dual remote oil filtration kit installed. I'm going for the extended oil change intervals.

I had an oil analysis done by Blackstone labs many many miles ago. Since the extended oil change intervals are predicated on oil analysis I bought two kits from Amsoil using Oil Analyers, Inc. in Superior Wisconsin. Amsoil also sells kits for their "Trigard Protection Plan" (unknown which lab) for $6.00 more. I don't know the difference except the Trigard PP has an "initial and continuation registration. And its supposed to be for when your using all Amsoils filters, air filters also.

Somewhere on this site, someone mentioned moly. Seems like I remember Blackstone mentioning in their report that the moly detected was possibly from an engine additive. I hadn't told them but I was using an engine oil additive from International Lubricants, Inc. out of Seattle Washington. It was black-black and I suspected it to be Moly as about 30 years ago I used a product I bought in quart cans that was sold as "moly-yada-yada something". The name went on for five or six syllibles and was black-black too. I used it in a new Plymouth slant 6 cyl for over 100K miles. During a tear down the engine bearings showed only about .0015" wear. With that product not avalible to me anymore, I found the product from International Lubes and used it in my PSD since new. I think with great sucess.

As far as what the lab numbers mean, I'll probably be able to pick that up on this site, (great site BTW) but what I need to know is which lab to use and WHY?? Thanks in advance, Larry K.

 

[larry K.]

59 vetteman, I understand what Terry said, but maybe he didn't quite mean what he said or atleast the way it came across.

What he said was that he contracts with labS. (plural) His standard of acceptance may be high, but for a "trend analysis" I would think having samples analyzed on the same equipment would be a plus. I have heeded your advice with very good results in the past and will no doubt be very interested in hearing (reading) what you have to say in the future. I respect very highly your opinion. Thanks again, vetteman. Larry K.

 

[BOBISTHEOILGUY]

Larry,

I had three seperate trend analysis contracted to terry for. He did all three by one contractor and I respect terry and hold in high regards his abilities to do trend analysis as he does have a good background in analysis and consistancy.

I would highly recommend his services as well.

bob