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I rarely notice any substantial change in engine responsiveness with the Honda, but I have recently and I'm surprised by it. I've had MC 5w20 in the Honda now for 3,000 miles. 3 full tanks ago, I used Chevron Pro Gard FI cleaner. I generally use Redline SI, but it's been about 15,000 miles or so since the last bottle.

Using a top tier gas, I would not think these products would be needed that often, if ever. I know Bill from Utah and others never have used them. I generally run Shell 87 or Sunoco gas. I can say with confidence that the Pro Gard has possibly cleaned up the injectors. I find it hard to believe they were plugged up, but being as small as a human hair I guess it wouldn't take much. Unless it's the oil or change in gas formulation, but I doubt it.

The engine is a lot more rev happy. I was going to pull the plugs out recently to check them because the car has been lagging a bit. Assuming it was the Pro Gard, the hesitation is certainly gone.

I've already used 1qt of MC 5w20 in 3,200 miles of high speed highway driving.
 
I just returned from a road trip up north (Pensacola to Boston and and New Hampshire, and back), and got a couple tanks of Sunoco. Was wondering if it too is top tier. Your thoughts? We don't have the brand down here where the gas is E10 (but the beaches are P100...).
 
Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
I believe Sunoco is only Top Tier in Canada...

I believe you're right. Sunoco around here is generally regarded as a quality fuel, but I don't think it's classified as "top tier".
 
Originally Posted By: buster
I've already used 1qt of MC 5w20 in 3,200 miles of high speed highway driving.

Great news on the fuel injector cleaner. I have noticed similar results in many cars when using techron (pro-gard). I now prefer the Jectron (lubro-moly) cleaner over techron because the effects seem to last longer (it's also less expensive). Running fuel injector cleaner is a regular maintenance item for me, although I only do it maybe every 6 months or so.

Is the oil consumption normal for your car or is it burning more with the MC vs. other oils?
 
TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:

QuikTrip
Chevron
Texaco
MFA Oil Co.
Conoco
Phillips 66
76
Entec Stations
Shell
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Kwik Trip / Kwik Star
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Co.
Turkey Hill Minit Markets
Mileage Stations
Road Ranger
CountryMark
Chevron Canada
Shell Canada
Petro-Canada
Sunoco Canada
ExxonMobil
Esso
Rebel Oil
U.S. Oil
Severson Oil
 
Originally Posted By: saaber1
Originally Posted By: buster
I've already used 1qt of MC 5w20 in 3,200 miles of high speed highway driving.

Great news on the fuel injector cleaner. I have noticed similar results in many cars when using techron (pro-gard). I now prefer the Jectron (lubro-moly) cleaner over techron because the effects seem to last longer (it's also less expensive). Running fuel injector cleaner is a regular maintenance item for me, although I only do it maybe every 6 months or so.

Is the oil consumption normal for your car or is it burning more with the MC vs. other oils?


It's a bit higher, but I believe that has to do with how fast I've been driving lately and the fact that the car now has 131k on it.

I'm going to make it more of a routine maintenance item and continue to use it.
 
Originally Posted By: SERonBLAST
TOP TIER Gasoline Retailers:

QuikTrip
Chevron
Texaco
MFA Oil Co.
Conoco
Phillips 66
76
Entec Stations
Shell
The Somerset Refinery, Inc.
Kwik Trip / Kwik Star
Aloha Petroleum
Tri-Par Oil Co.
Turkey Hill Minit Markets
Mileage Stations
Road Ranger
CountryMark
Chevron Canada
Shell Canada
Petro-Canada
Sunoco Canada
ExxonMobil
Esso
Rebel Oil
U.S. Oil
Severson Oil


Thanks. This list includes some updates. Exxon-Mobil is a recent addition and I finally have a Top Tier provider in my area. It was a bit frustrating that Sunoco was Top Tier over the border, but not a few miles away in the States...
 
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I'm glad to find out that ExxonMobil is a toptier gasoline. Now I won't have to pass so many of them up trying to find a Chevron or Shell around here.
 
I notice too on all of my vehicles, about this time of year after a long winter/wet spring, that my vehicles seem to run great/smoother/more responsive/better MPG etc.
I still have the oil in my crank case from DEC'09(little more than 3000 miles) and no fuel system cleaner. I'll be changing the oil(s) this weekend or druing next week.

Anyway,(with my way of thinking) the combo of summer fuel and great weather, warmer temps near 70-80F most of the time, sunny days, little rain at night to wash away the pollutents make the engines feel like new. Engines rev more easily and the auto transmissions shift more responsively too.

In the winter time, especially at sub-zero temps, the fluids are like syrup(you know what I mean) and the bearing greases' are like cake frosting, till they warm up!

Vehicles are like people. Try jogging when it's 10F outside with heavey sweats, gloves, hat covering your ears as compared to a nice 70F day with shorts, baseball cap on backwards and your most comfortable running sneakers.(Please, don't really try to picture this!:)
 
Seafoam is going to clean some stuff.
But why not use the modern technology cleaners? They are better.
Chevron Techron, Gumout Regane, Redline SI-1 have the amine cleaners.
 
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