non "energy conserving" 0W30 ???

[wileyE]

anyone know of one? it's for a yamaha fourstroke snowmachine


Engine oil
Use a combination of the recommended SAE and API oil
classifications shown in the chart below.
CB-02E
CAUTION:
@
Use only 4-stroke engine oil.
Engine oil also lubricates the starter clutch. In
order to prevent clutch slippage, do not mix any
chemical additives with the oil or use oils of a
higher grade than “CD”. In addition, do not use
oils labeled “ENERGY CONSERVING II” or higher.
SAE API
SE, SF, SG
or
higher
-40° -20° 0° 20° 40° 60° F
SAE 0W-30
-40° -29° -18° -7° 4° 16° C

 

[tmorris1]

My guess would be Yamalube if Yamaha specs it. There is a 0W40 that Amsoil makes that would work good. I use it in my ATV at below zero temps and it starts fine.

 

[Mickey_M]

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Originally posted by wileyE:
anyone know of one? it's for a yamaha fourstroke snowmachine

....Engine oil also lubricates the starter clutch. In order to prevent clutch slippage, do not mix any chemical additives with the oil or use oils of a higher grade than “CD”. In addition, do not use oils labeled “ENERGY CONSERVING II” or higher. SAE API SE, SF, SG or higher .....

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They want motorcycle oil. No friction modifiers.

Mobil's Mobil 1 MX4T 10W-40 should work, as should Mobil 1 Truck and SUV / Delvac 1 5W-40.

Yamalube 4-S 0w30 is a semi-synthetic someone is putting up for them.

Motul makes some 5W-40 and 10W-40 motorcycle oils that should be suitable.

Royal Purple has 10w30 and 10W-40 motorcylce oils.

Maxim USA lists a Maxum4 Ultra 0w30 synthetic along with the 10W-40 full synthetic motorcycle oil.

Given the properties of a full synthetic, I'd opt for one of the full synthetic motorcycle oils over a rebranded 0w30 semi-synthetic.


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[Reg# 43897]

You know what, if I had a four stroke Yamaha sled (have a piped 700 Mntn Max), and one of these days I shall, I would look at using Esso XD-3 or GC. Perhaps the XD-3 would get the nod. I would not go up past a 0w-x oil as one has to consider that these machines see some pretty cold starts. 10w-x should definitely be rejected. As is posted elsewhere, a non-energy conserving oil such as an A3, etc. (or HDEO), likley will give a better level of engine protection. There is no wet clutch to worry about here versus a bike application, which might free your hand somewhat.

If the machine is new I would give warranty issues careful consideration and use Yamalube semi-synthetic for the first year. After that, let the experimenting begin...!

John.

 

[wileyE]

Thanks for all the good answers. It's being shipped to Alaska and I was going stuff some oil and other goodies in the crate for the guy. The yamaha dealer doesn't stock the yamalube 0w30, and everthing I found at chinamart and partstores was energy conserving. My concern of thicker oil was more about coldcranking at very cold temps. Not sure how the battery on this thing holds up? The difference bewteen 5 and 0w probably isn't much difference though? The buyer of the sled says he has a 76 jobber that can get him "arctic" oil, whatever that means? So it's out of my hands now and he doesn't seem to worried about it.