No T rated in LRR??

[flinter]

Hi,

I am looking on Tire Rack now and I dont seem to see any T rated Standard Touring All Seasons that are LRR rated (low rolling resistance). I see a bunch that are H rated under Grand Touring ALL Season but none T rated. T rated tires are not available in LRR?

Am I missing something??

 

[BobFout]

Given most US cars are limited to 130 MPH, T rated is not popular. I'm seeing it primarily for winter tires.

 

[TinyVoices]

Is there any reason you are looking for a tire with a lower speed rating?

 

[flinter]

Tire Rack tells me I can drop one speed rating from H to T on my 2015 Civic EX. I am thinking that a top tier T rated touring all season may be a bit for comfortable that a comparable in H rated.

 

[The_German]

You may be in luck:

Continental True Contact

 

[flinter]

German,

The Conti True Contact is not made in my size (205/55/16).

 

[TinyVoices]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?...romCompare1=yes

This Michelin has LRR and is T rated in your size.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+Ascend+%28T-Speed+Rated%29&partnum=055TR6ASC&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

This Yoko as well.

 

[ET16]

I have heard that H tires are usually better made than T tires.

 

[funflyer]

Originally Posted By: TinyVoices
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?...romCompare1=yes

This Michelin has LRR and is T rated in your size.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+Ascend+%28T-Speed+Rated%29&partnum=055TR6ASC&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

This Yoko as well.


Defenders are a great tire but not a good LRR tire. A few years ago I replaced a set of Michelin X Radials with Defenders, same size, and my MPGs dropped by almost 20%.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Originally Posted By: flinter
Tire Rack tells me I can drop one speed rating from H to T on my 2015 Civic EX. I am thinking that a top tier T rated touring all season may be a bit for comfortable that a comparable in H rated.


Most tire shops will not install tires with a lower speed rating than what the car originally came with. So even though Tire Rack says it's ok, the installer won't. Which means you need at least H. But don't worry, plenty of H-rated LRR tires out there

Now keep in mind, TR doesn't sell every tire available.

Also, it appears TR is splitting the grand/standard touring performance categories by speed rating. H or higher is grand touring, while T-rated tires are standard touring to them. What's wrong with the Bridgestone Ecopia EP422 Plus or the Turanza Serenity Plus?

The Goodyear Fuel Max will probably get you the bvest MPG of any all-season tire. But for the best mileage, lowest rolling resistance, you'll need a grand touring summer tire like the Falken Ziex ZE914 Ecorun. Of course, you'd also need a second set of tires for the winter.

You may also be able to use the Vredestein Quatrac Lite, an all-season tire with the mountain-and-snowflake symbol and is also LRR.

 

[bubbatime]

Stock with H rated. Better built tire, better handling at highway speeds.

 

[CapriRacer]

FYI:

LRR is a relative term, not an absolute one. It's an industry term, not a government one. It means better rolling resistance compared to tires with similar wear and traction characteristics. It does not mean low rolling resistance.

Many tires with actual low rolling resistance values won't be labeled as such, because the term is relative - and many tires that have that label won't give good fuel economy.

So the fact that a tire doesn't have a LRR label doesn't mean it gives bad fuel economy.

 

[UG_Passat]

Originally Posted By: flinter
Tire Rack tells me I can drop one speed rating from H to T on my 2015 Civic EX. I am thinking that a top tier T rated touring all season may be a bit for comfortable that a comparable in H rated.


Why try to make life harder, by going to T-speed rating? Price?

Michelin Primier A/S is an option in H-speed rating

 

[Vuflanovsky]

I think it's a truism that LLR is a comparative term that isn't particularly comparative. I would be inclined to go with a softer riding H-rated tire that has good performance specs vs. trying to put a T-rated tire in the mix.

The T-rated tires I've had experience with are typically and noticeably softer sidewalled than higher speed rated versions of the same tire...so you're potentially introducing mushier handling into the equation to satisfy an LLR rating...and that rating may end up meaning much less to you than your subsequent dislike for the tires you end up with....

 

[Rand]

The ecopia 422 is among the best LRR tires.
and not a hazard in bad conditions like some.

Pirelli P7+ is also a good LRR tire.. and there are many others.

Michelin Premier is not class leading MPG.. but very good wet traction.
Cooper Tires seem to get among the WORST mpg when taken as a whole.

Many times you will have to sacrifice somewhat to get the best MPG tire..
either in treadlife or in wet traction is most common.