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The examples I cite are perfectly in line with your statement.
Not from my view.
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You want us to synthesize something that is freely available in nature.
I didn't see that. I think he said that only a [censored] would deplete a non-renewable (finite) resource without taking into account that it's finite and non-renewable. Only a fool would "run the market" ..without one thought toward the possibility that there is no "future market" for anything. It's a philosophy that a corporeal narcissistic Solipsist can cling to. They haven't got the capability to see beyond their own pathetically small existence bubble. From a social policy stand point ...where you're actually suppose to make sense in some sensible manner (peer review - spanning other existence bubbles) ..it's nothing other than good planning.
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What makes no sense to me is purposely using something that costs more and is less efficient.
That's only if you ignore that the free fuel cannot be reproduced. You may choose to do that ..and perhaps adopt a SteveS approach "it has to run out someday" ..using that attitude to see if you can race to get it done sooner ..but then again, the captain of the Titanic could have planned to hit the iceberg instead of just happening to run into it. That would have shown his true intelligence.
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Ethanol is the perfect example. It's renewable, but there are lots of other things that it effects.
That's today. In 20 years it may be a drop dead bargain ..but maybe not. Only a fool doesn't plan for tomorrow ..otherwise he's just another form of the 100% smackarse jerks that run up their credit cards and throw caution to the wind in spending. This individual ..is just as much of a fool and is spending the future today in terms of non-renewable resources.
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If steel and aluminum is undervalued, how much more should they cost? 10%? 30%? 50%?
Whatever it takes to reflect the avoided costs of free energy. It's very simple.
Now if you just want to
and say "You'll never get that to work" ..fine. You're probably correct in that it will be littered with boondoggle-fest celebrations in inefficiencies and our baseline corruption quotients. So? You offer only an assured self destructive path to misery and extinction.
You can't sell your philosophy in any manner other than "Throw a party now, while you still can!"
The examples I cite are perfectly in line with your statement.
Not from my view.
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You want us to synthesize something that is freely available in nature.
I didn't see that. I think he said that only a [censored] would deplete a non-renewable (finite) resource without taking into account that it's finite and non-renewable. Only a fool would "run the market" ..without one thought toward the possibility that there is no "future market" for anything. It's a philosophy that a corporeal narcissistic Solipsist can cling to. They haven't got the capability to see beyond their own pathetically small existence bubble. From a social policy stand point ...where you're actually suppose to make sense in some sensible manner (peer review - spanning other existence bubbles) ..it's nothing other than good planning.
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What makes no sense to me is purposely using something that costs more and is less efficient.
That's only if you ignore that the free fuel cannot be reproduced. You may choose to do that ..and perhaps adopt a SteveS approach "it has to run out someday" ..using that attitude to see if you can race to get it done sooner ..but then again, the captain of the Titanic could have planned to hit the iceberg instead of just happening to run into it. That would have shown his true intelligence.
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Ethanol is the perfect example. It's renewable, but there are lots of other things that it effects.
That's today. In 20 years it may be a drop dead bargain ..but maybe not. Only a fool doesn't plan for tomorrow ..otherwise he's just another form of the 100% smackarse jerks that run up their credit cards and throw caution to the wind in spending. This individual ..is just as much of a fool and is spending the future today in terms of non-renewable resources.
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If steel and aluminum is undervalued, how much more should they cost? 10%? 30%? 50%?
Whatever it takes to reflect the avoided costs of free energy. It's very simple.
Now if you just want to

You can't sell your philosophy in any manner other than "Throw a party now, while you still can!"