No more ecores for me

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I was changing the oil in my car on Tuesday and as I was putting on the filter I noticed it had been damaged. It was a Purolator. It had obviously been dropped. The non-thread end of the can was dented in about 1/2" - stupid me for not checking it before leaving the store. I have since returned it for a new one. The damage to the filter wasn't necessarily the fault of Purolator, so I hold no ill will towards them and their quality control.

Anyway, seeing the damage, I thought no problem, I'll just use the Supertech I've got setting on the shelf in the garage. I'm glad I inspected it before I installed it as I ended up using my wife's car to go buy a Wix from the closest parts store.

Inside through the plastic cage I could see one section of filter media that was almost completely flattened out against the cage. As I turned the filter I saw where the media was joined together, the pleats were also flattened (not to the extent of the other spot I found) and that the seam where the media joins appeared to not have been glued properly. There looks to be a gap at the top where the paper doesn't even actually meet.

I've had it with any ecore filter at this point. I've used them in the past with no concern and always remembered to inspect them in the store (except for this one). A lot of the times I'd find one with uneven or "strectehd" pleats and would just find another one in which the media was properly "installed". After reading through some of the ecore threads here and then coming across one with such shoddy construction I will avoid them at all cost at this point. I'm sticking to Purolators from now on. Heck, I'd rather use a Fram at this point since both the ecores and Frams have carboard endcaps and at least with all the pics we've seen here of Frams, the media has been in reasonably good shape.

I'll post pics later this week of the filter cut open if I can get it open with my Dremel.
 
Git er done and post up! It would be of great help to those who are considering using this type of filter. Thanks
 
Send it back for the manufacturer to look at. They may send you a case for free. The pleats are more visible in the e-core and I expect the problem you found has been in many other filters, but not visible
 
Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Send it back for the manufacturer to look at. They may send you a case for free. The pleats are more visible in the e-core and I expect the problem you found has been in many other filters, but not visible
I don't know what I'd do with a case of ecore filters - honestly.
 
"I don't know what I'd do with a case of ecore filters - honestly."

Return them to walmart for store credit and by a bunch of oil.
 
Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Or, use them on your car like millions of other people do.


Or just completely neglect regular maintenance like millions of other people do.
 
I cut open an ST that had "flattened pleats" too...however, the filter never failed. Media was still completely intact. Had some coolant in the oil too (a death sentance for media I've read).
 
That is one Problem I have with Purolator products. They dent VERY easy. I have dropped some before and dented them to oblivion.
 
Originally Posted By: defektes
That is one Problem I have with Purolator products. They dent VERY easy. I have dropped some before and dented them to oblivion.


Interestingly, I've found that the Ford-equivalent Purolator, vs the Motorcraft that Purolator makes for Ford, that the Ford-spec version has a heavier can.
 
Okay so here we go. I promised pics and here they are. It was worse then I orginally thought based on visual inspection.

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Note in this pic the "twisted" media. None of the pleats are perpedicular to the endcaps.
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First "dented" section of media
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Second section of "dented" media
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Where the media ends join - notice it doesn't appear to be a complete bond
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Close up of media bond
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And perhaps the most concerning part the bottom endcap of the media. We hear so much that carboard/felt/"engineered" endcaps are okay. Well take a look at this one.
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Notice the "crack" in the felt endcap. It goes all the way through as in I can see daylight when I look through it.

Contrast this with the Purolator
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Note no "twisted" media. All pleats parallel.

There was only one spot where the media was spaced unevenly. Where the ends are bonded together. But even there, at least the pleats were perpendicular to the end caps and the media was joined by a metal clamp

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So, out of a random sample of ecore Supertechs and "classic" Purolators we get this. The condition of the ecore shouldn't be so bad in a random sample. This should be an outlier not the norm and yet we've seen other like this... though none yet with the crack/cut in the felt endcap.
 
Originally Posted By: JT1
"I don't know what I'd do with a case of ecore filters - honestly."

Return them to walmart for store credit and by a bunch of oil.


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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: defektes
That is one Problem I have with Purolator products. They dent VERY easy. I have dropped some before and dented them to oblivion.


Interestingly, I've found that the Ford-equivalent Purolator, vs the Motorcraft that Purolator makes for Ford, that the Ford-spec version has a heavier can.


I wouldnt hesitate to run a motorcraft, they are built to ford specs and I find them much better than regular Purolators.
 
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No more ecores for me



Yeah. Better go get a Pureone with the gold metalflake fairy dust inside it instead. Now that's quality!
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
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No more ecores for me



Yeah. Better go get a Pureone with the gold metalflake fairy dust inside it instead. Now that's quality!
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I'd take the "gold metalflake fairy dust" that would hurt nothing even if getting into the engine over the escrap media fold blow out flaw!
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It seems that the ecore design had two main objectives:

1) Reduce manufacturing cost
2) Shrink the can size and get more applications per part #

Thanks, but no thanks!
 
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