Nextra to Restart Dwayne Arnold Nuclear Plant in Palo Iowa

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"NextEra Energy said Friday it's taken the first steps to recommission Iowa's only nuclear energy plant, with operations possibly restarting by late 2028.

NextEra CEO John Ketchum in an earnings call Friday morning called recommissioning the 600-megawatt Duane Arnold nuclear plant near Palo in eastern Iowa a relatively speedy option for meeting the nation's rapidly growing energy demand, which he said is expected to climb "80% over the next five years and six-fold over the next 20 years."

"There are only a few nuclear plants that can be recommissioned in the-near term in an economic way," Ketchum said Friday...."

via Des Moine Register

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...owa-might-reopen-by-2028-nextera/77926765007/
 
@OVERKILL

"NextEra Energy said Friday it's taken the first steps to recommission Iowa's only nuclear energy plant, with operations possibly restarting by late 2028.

NextEra CEO John Ketchum in an earnings call Friday morning called recommissioning the 600-megawatt Duane Arnold nuclear plant near Palo in eastern Iowa a relatively speedy option for meeting the nation's rapidly growing energy demand, which he said is expected to climb "80% over the next five years and six-fold over the next 20 years."

"There are only a few nuclear plants that can be recommissioned in the-near term in an economic way," Ketchum said Friday...."

via Des Moine Register

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...owa-might-reopen-by-2028-nextera/77926765007/
Yeah, saw that on twitter this AM! Wild to see plants that were retired wholly because their economics were worse than a gas plant being restarted to meet increases in demand.
 
Yeah, saw that on twitter this AM! Wild to see plants that were retired wholly because their economics were worse than a gas plant being restarted to meet increases in demand.
Thousands of wind turbines have been installed across this state and apparently they will not be able to supply future needs. Voters in the area did not want to cover 640 acres of rich farmland with solar panels because the panels would not supply enough energy on cold, cloudy days, which is common in winter.

Some of our total energy supply here IS done with natural gas. Perhaps more NG plants will be built along with the new technology nuclear plants.

It is going to take a mix of technologies to meet future energy needs.
 
Thousands of wind turbines have been installed across this state and apparently they will not be able to supply future needs. Voters in the area did not want to cover 640 acres of rich farmland with solar panels because the panels would not supply enough energy on cold, cloudy days, which is common in winter.

Some of our total energy supply here IS done with natural gas. Perhaps more NG plants will be built along with the new technology nuclear plants.

It is going to take a mix of technologies to meet future energy needs.
The problem of course was that the REC's and other schemes that wind and solar were given, weren't also provided to nuclear plants. It was a stacked deck in favour of "the chosen" sources.

US nuclear plants have very low operating costs, but they are, especially for the small single unit ones, higher than fracked gas. When an administration can't justify helping a nuke meet maybe a $0.045/kWh operating cost but gives $0.15/kWh to some wind turbine operator, you know the game is rigged.
 
Mola, one thing I sure hadn’t considered but wanted some people smarter than me evaluate the veracity: if wind and solar are continuing to be propagated, and they each generally solely utilize natural gas plants as backup, if a winter storm like the one you reference were to hit Iowa (or Texas, for that matter)… imagine a 0% output from all wind and solar, meaning that 1:1 natgas backup must be rocking full-tilt 24/7 to supply electricity: since pipelines have limited capacity, the power plants will receive preferential supply vs. individuals. This will mean there’s a very real potential that residences with natgas furnaces and water heaters will not receive the supply they need. This would still expose wide swaths of homes to deadly cold and potential water line ruptures.

The expansion of wind & solar while reducing baseload fuel choices may end up leaving people worse off. Nuclear is the only “green” power source that doesn’t short existing residential heat & energy supplies.

Thoughts, power generation folks like @OVERKILL & @MVAR ?
 
Mola, one thing I sure hadn’t considered but wanted some people smarter than me evaluate the veracity: if wind and solar are continuing to be propagated, and they each generally solely utilize natural gas plants as backup, if a winter storm like the one you reference were to hit Iowa (or Texas, for that matter)… imagine a 0% output from all wind and solar, meaning that 1:1 natgas backup must be rocking full-tilt 24/7 to supply electricity: since pipelines have limited capacity, the power plants will receive preferential supply vs. individuals. This will mean there’s a very real potential that residences with natgas furnaces and water heaters will not receive the supply they need. This would still expose wide swaths of homes to deadly cold and potential water line ruptures.

The expansion of wind & solar while reducing baseload fuel choices may end up leaving people worse off. Nuclear is the only “green” power source that doesn’t short existing residential heat & energy supplies.

Thoughts, power generation folks like @OVERKILL & @MVAR ?
That's basically what happened in Texas. Demand spiked, there were gas availability issues and some plants couldn't run and people also weren't receiving gas. Alberta was in a similar bind back in the beginning of 2024 with a cold snap and of course both wind and solar buggered off and there were a couple of gas units off for maintenance and they had emergency grid alerts and were extremely close to implementing rolling blackouts to prevent total grid collapse.

Gas plants don't generally have any storage, they are the power plant version of JIT, which makes them extremely vulnerable to supply disruptions. There are some older plants like Lennox here in Ontario that are duel fuel and keep huge quantities of oil on-hand in the event that there is a gas shortage, but that's expensive and when you are running on a market system where some participants are compensated massively out of market (wind and solar) there isn't the money in the margin to fund stuff like that.

Nukes of course, with long fuel cycles, don't have this problem (and are more productive when it's cold, good old Rankine Cycle!). But nukes have very fixed operating costs (staff) that need to be covered and that makes them hard to keep profitable when competing with fracked gas or massive subsidies.

Tangent: there's a certain group that has this romantic obsession with the idea of having things like power generation be more "natural", so marrying it to the vagaries of weather; prostituting ourselves to the "whims of nature" is seen as bringing one closer to this perverted "utopia". There is a strong connection to this in Germany, which is how Energiewende is still a thing, despite it decimating them economically, making energy unaffordable and them burning friggin' trees for baseload along with obscene amounts of coal which keeps getting hand-waved away as "transitional".
 
Mola, one thing I sure hadn’t considered but wanted some people smarter than me evaluate the veracity: if wind and solar are continuing to be propagated, and they each generally solely utilize natural gas plants as backup, if a winter storm like the one you reference were to hit Iowa (or Texas, for that matter)… imagine a 0% output from all wind and solar, meaning that 1:1 natgas backup must be rocking full-tilt 24/7 to supply electricity: since pipelines have limited capacity, the power plants will receive preferential supply vs. individuals. This will mean there’s a very real potential that residences with natgas furnaces and water heaters will not receive the supply they need. This would still expose wide swaths of homes to deadly cold and potential water line ruptures.

The expansion of wind & solar while reducing baseload fuel choices may end up leaving people worse off. Nuclear is the only “green” power source that doesn’t short existing residential heat & energy supplies.

Thoughts, power generation folks like @OVERKILL & @MVAR ?
@OVERKILL basically covered most of this so I’ll be brief with only a couple additions to expand a bit more. Iowa, unlike Texas, is apart of a larger interconnected system (they’re in the MISO jurisdiction of NERC areas) so they’re interconnected to several neighboring states with multiple balancing authorities, transmission system operators, load serving entities, etc… This allows for load sharing agreements for imports with your neighbors. Also, the colder regions are already readily capable for winter temperatures, helping with fuel supply issues. Depending on the regional portfolio, hydro & coal will likely also be available for dispatch. Some of the more recent NERC reliability assessments have placed MISO towards the top of vulnerable regional entities though.

I’ll look for a recent report & blind post:

https://www.nerc.com/pa/RAPA/ra/Reliability Assessments DL/NERC_WRA_2024.pdf
 
@OVERKILL basically covered most of this so I’ll be brief with only a couple additions to expand a bit more. Iowa, unlike Texas, is apart of a larger interconnected system (they’re in the MISO jurisdiction of NERC areas) so they’re interconnected to several neighboring states with multiple balancing authorities, transmission system operators, load serving entities, etc… This allows for load sharing agreements for imports with your neighbors. Also, the colder regions are already readily capable for winter temperatures, helping with fuel supply issues. Depending on the regional portfolio, hydro & coal will likely also be available for dispatch. Some of the more recent NERC reliability assessments have placed MISO towards the top of vulnerable regional entities though.

I’ll look for a recent report & blind post:

https://www.nerc.com/pa/RAPA/ra/Reliability Assessments DL/NERC_WRA_2024.pdf
Friend of mine performs NERC reliability assessments/audits (used to work for Ontario Hydro, then later the IESO, but is retired). The "we want to try to integrate lots of variable supply" advocates/hijacks have him far busier than he ever anticipated in his retirement, lol.

Ontario shows a bit tight in the recent assessment due to the situation with Pickering. Even with it being refurbished, it will be offline and if we experience demand growth while that's underway, I expect 'ol Lennox is going to be running far more than it has in the last two decades. Even with Darlington back at full capacity, the Pickering refurbs will overlap with some of the Bruce ones, so there will be significant capacity temporarily unavailable. We advocated for a phased refurb at Pickering, like what's happening at Bruce and Darlington, but because of the extensive site upgrade, OPG appears to want to just do a full shutdown and then start bringing the units back as they are completed.
 
Friend of mine performs NERC reliability assessments/audits (used to work for Ontario Hydro, then later the IESO, but is retired). The "we want to try to integrate lots of variable supply" advocates/hijacks have him far busier than he ever anticipated in his retirement, lol.

Ontario shows a bit tight in the recent assessment due to the situation with Pickering. Even with it being refurbished, it will be offline and if we experience demand growth while that's underway, I expect 'ol Lennox is going to be running far more than it has in the last two decades. Even with Darlington back at full capacity, the Pickering refurbs will overlap with some of the Bruce ones, so there will be significant capacity temporarily unavailable. We advocated for a phased refurb at Pickering, like what's happening at Bruce and Darlington, but because of the extensive site upgrade, OPG appears to want to just do a full shutdown and then start bringing the units back as they are completed.
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The pdf I linked is still available. Here's a few excerpts:

Midcontinent ISO (MISO): Reduced coal and natural-gas-fired generation by over 5 GW since Winter 2023–2024 has contributed to a decline in available resources. Lower internal capacity is partially offset by a 2 GW increase in firm capacity imports into the area. Additionally, MISO’s margin is being helped by a lower peak demand forecast, down over 4 GW since last winter. MISO recently implemented a seasonal resource adequacy construct that more effectively values risks and resource contributions that vary by time of year. With fewer internal dispatchable resources and increasing reliance on wind and imports, the risk of supply shortfall in winter has increased in MISO

2. Natural gas fuel to generators is threatened this winter by ongoing concerns with natural gas production and delivery in extreme conditions and a potential regional pipeline capacity issue in the U.S. Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. Natural gas is an essential fuel for electricity generation in winter. While the natural gas industry is making progress on commercial practices and voluntary commitments to improve winter preparedness, supplies to electric generators remain vulnerable in extreme cold temperatures in many parts of North America, placing electric reliability at risk. As winter approaches, NERC encourages all entities across the gas-electric value chain—from production to the burner tip and the busbar—to take all necessary actions to prepare for extreme cold, keep natural gas flowing, and keep the lights and furnaces on.

At the time of this WRA, the operator of a major interstate natural gas pipeline expansion project serving the U.S. Mid-Atlantic and Northeast is facing legal challenges to the continued operation of the expanded pipeline. According to a recent Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) filing, a halting of the expanded pipeline operations would affect “firm transportation capacity in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama.” These states correspond to the PJM, NPCC-New York, SERC-East, and SERC-Southeast assessment areas. During recent extreme winter weather events, each of these areas has experienced or come dangerously close to a shortfall in electricity supply for which fuel availability was a significant factor. Because foreseeable extreme cold temperatures have the potential to push the existing natural gas supply infrastructure to maximum capacity again this winter, a shutdown of in-service regional natural gas facilities would endanger grid reliability.

2 Recommendations

To reduce the risks of energy shortfalls on the BPS this winter, NERC recommends the following:

• RCs, BAs, and Transmission Operators (TOP) in the elevated risk areas identified in the key findings should review seasonal operating plans and the protocols for communicating and resolving potential supply shortfalls in anticipation of potentially high generator outages and extreme demand levels. Operators should review recommendations contained in the 2022 Winter Storm Elliott Report and follow-up actions as well as lessons learned from the 2023–2024 Winter.

• Generator Owners (GO) should complete winter readiness plans and checklists prior to December, deploy weatherization packages well in advance of approaching winter storms, and frequently check and maintain cold weather mitigations while conditions persist.

• BAs should be cognizant of the potential for short-term load forecasts to underestimate load in extreme cold weather events and be prepared to take early action to implement protocols and procedures for managing potential reserve deficiencies. Proactive issuance of winter advisories and other steps directed at generator availability contributed to improved reliability during January 2024 winter storms Gerri and Heather compared to prior arctic storms.

• RCs and BAs should implement generator fuel surveys to monitor the adequacy of fuel supplies. They should prepare their operating plans to manage potential supply shortfalls and take proactive steps for generator readiness, fuel availability, load curtailment, and sustained operations in extreme conditions.

• State and provincial regulators can assist grid owners and operators in advance of and during extreme cold weather by supporting requested environmental and transportation waivers as well as public appeals for electricity and natural gas conservation.
 
@MolaKule interesting enough my wife received a call for a survey around this last week. The questions were fairly pointed and she could not discern if the person was in favor or not of the plan. She answered a lot of the questions with I would need more information to answer that.

Good news is, hopefully it brings some jobs to this part of the state.

Just my $0.02
 
That's basically what happened in Texas. Demand spiked, there were gas availability issues and some plants couldn't run and people also weren't receiving gas. Alberta was in a similar bind back in the beginning of 2024 with a cold snap and of course both wind and solar buggered off and there were a couple of gas units off for maintenance and they had emergency grid alerts and were extremely close to implementing rolling blackouts to prevent total grid collapse.

Gas plants don't generally have any storage, they are the power plant version of JIT, which makes them extremely vulnerable to supply disruptions. There are some older plants like Lennox here in Ontario that are duel fuel and keep huge quantities of oil on-hand in the event that there is a gas shortage, but that's expensive and when you are running on a market system where some participants are compensated massively out of market (wind and solar) there isn't the money in the margin to fund stuff like that.

Nukes of course, with long fuel cycles, don't have this problem (and are more productive when it's cold, good old Rankine Cycle!). But nukes have very fixed operating costs (staff) that need to be covered and that makes them hard to keep profitable when competing with fracked gas or massive subsidies.

Tangent: there's a certain group that has this romantic obsession with the idea of having things like power generation be more "natural", so marrying it to the vagaries of weather; prostituting ourselves to the "whims of nature" is seen as bringing one closer to this perverted "utopia". There is a strong connection to this in Germany, which is how Energiewende is still a thing, despite it decimating them economically, making energy unaffordable and them burning friggin' trees for baseload along with obscene amounts of coal which keeps getting hand-waved away as "transitional".
Another problem is when a gas plant (not GTG, the NG supply side) is not given priority during selective load shedding (brownout). And as soon as they recognized the need to have more standby generators - data centers are grabbing all the large generators for their backup … My bosses brother works in that leg of CAT - said they struggle to balance long standing customer needs as well …
 
There's talk of restarting the construction of a nuke northeast of Columbia SC. It was swept up by the Westinghouse bankruptcy which also caused so many issues with the Votgle reactors in GA. The owners of the SC site are looking to team up with an IT company for AI data centers but with the news regarding the less power hungry Chinese AI app DeepSeek I wonder how many of these restarts (ex, Three Mile Island) are now in jeopardy.

LINK
 
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