New Wix filter for Subaru Applications - 23 psi's

[JTK]

Just completed an oil change on my 2012 Legacy 2.5i using the ProSelect 27712. I thought the blue Subaru Honeywell filter was small. The 27712 is quite a bit shorter yet! You have to stuff your hand way up the Subaru (heat shield) hole to get that sucker threaded on! I'm going to have a hard time going 7500mi with a filter that tiny.

I also cut open the used blue Subaru filter. The pleats were much more even than they were on the factory filter per the thread & pics I had posted on it some months ago. I may stick with the Subaru filters after this one just based on the media size difference.

Joel

 

[ZeeOSix]

What's the bypass valve spec on that ProSelect 27712 ... still 23 PSI?

 

[JTK]

Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
What's the bypass valve spec on that ProSelect 27712 ... still 23 PSI?


That's what I'm guessing, based on the Napa 7712 specs I've seen.

Joel

 

[bluesubie]

From Napaonline:

Oil Filter (ProSelect)
Part Number: SFI 27712

Composite Media, Nitrile Rubber Anti-Drain Back Valve, Standard Center Tube, Meets Engine Manufacturers Requirements, Has 23 LB By-Pass Relief Valve Setting

-Dennis

 

[JTK]

It's funny really. You can make that bypass pressure as high as you want. Just make the media area smaller so it can handle a higher dP across it than a large area could.

I'm more impressed that the blue Honeywell made Subaru filters can manage the 23psig bypass with the much larger, fiber end-caped media.

Joel

 

[Thermo1223]

So it looks like I should stick with the idea of running a M1-110 which is basically a longer M1-108, which is the old filter with a lower bypass.

If the filter area is smaller than I certainly will not be able to run a long FCI.

Super good info.

 

[Izb]

Attention: 57712/7712 - only for EJ, not for FB!
Because has thread location od bypass valve...

 

[webfors]

Not enough media IMO. And with the pro select media.... not a good combo for high PSI.

 

[rrounds]

To bad, but I think a Baldwin B202 is to big to fit on a Subaru. That is one large filter that I run on my S2000. 3 11/16" X 5 3/8"

 

[Izb]

Oil filters for new Subaru engines (FB).
Original (Tokyo Roki) filters (23 psid, thickness can 0.44mm):
- 15208AA160 (slim): 2.76x 3.41, 1092 cm2
- 15208AA130 (big): 3.19x2.91, 1240cm2 (that is why only 15208AA130 for Subaru BRZ 2013/2014)

I have found some non-original synthetic (with advanced filtration efficiency) filters (I looked only models with height more than 3”):
1) AMSOIL (11-17 psid, 9-11gpm, 98.7% at 20u, 99% at 25u, thikness can 0.55mm):
EA15K13 (former EA013): 2.65x 3.40i (Diameter x Height)
Ea15K20 (former EAO20) : 3.12 x3.08

2) Royal Purple (11-17 psid, 9-11gpm, 99% at 25u, thickness can 0.46mm):
10-2867 : 2.67x3.35
10-2808 : 3.14x3.08

3) Wix/Napa (8-11 psid, 9-11gpm, 50% at 20u) , thickness can 0.35mm
51356xp/41356 Platinum 2.68x3.40
51334XP/41334 Platinum 3.25x3.19

And models of non-synthetic filters:
51064 2.98 x 3.23 16 psi
51568 3.23x4.072 16 psi
51344 3.24x4.07
57712 : 2.68x2.58, 23 psid, only for EJ engines (thread location of bypass valve)
57830 : 3.29x3,00, 28 psid, for FB engines,
57055 : 2.57x3.40 , 27psid, for FB engines.


4) Purolator Pure One (99.9% at 40u) and Purolator Synthetic (99% at 25u), 9-11 gpm,thickness can 0.35mm:
PL14615 : 2.69 x 2.93, 16-28 psid
PL14459 and PSL14459 : 3.15x2.95, 12-15 psid
PL14620 (former PL14610) and PSL14610 (PSL14610) 2.69x3.52, 14-18 psid
Pl24458 : 3.15 x 3.94, 12-15 PSID
PL14460 : 3.15x2.95 , 20-25 PSID, without ADBV

5) Bosch Distance Plus (99.9% at 40u) and Bosch Long life (both made by Purolator), 9-11 gpm, thickness can 0.35mm:
D3312: 3.36x3.00 , 12-15psid
D3323: 2.69x3.52, 12-15psid


6) Mobil-1 (11-17 PSID, 99% at 25u), 9-11 gpm, thickness can 0.46mm
M1-104 : 3.14 x3.08
M1-110: 2.67x3.35

7) K&N (11-17 psid, 99% at 25u), 9-11 gpm, thickness can 0.46,,
HP1004: 3.16x3.4
HP1010: 2.69x3.75

8) AFE 44LF018 N (11-17 psid, 99% at 25u), thickness can 0.46,,

 

[Izb]

By the way, what is difference:
M20x1.5 and M20x1.5-H6 ?
(Some filter has M20x1.5, some filter has M20x1.5-H6)

 

[ZeeOSix]

I think "H6" is a spec on how the M20x1.5 threads are shaped when cut (ie, how "tight" the threads fit together when assembled). Both are M20x1.5 threads (20 mm diameter with 1.5 mm thread pitch).

 

[Izb]

Best syntetic filter for Subaru: http://www.sti.jp/e/parts/catalogue/common/oil_filter.pdf

 

[147_Grain]

Do you see an issue with using a Fram Ultra XG9688 on a 2013 Outback H6 versus the black OEM Tokyo Roki?

http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetailWindow.aspx?b=F&pn=XG9688

OEM has higher bi-pass of 23 and the Fram Ultra is in the 9 - 15 range with a less restrictive synthetic media.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: 147_Grain
Do you see an issue with using a Fram Ultra XG9688 on a 2013 Outback H6 versus the black OEM Tokyo Roki?

http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetailWindow.aspx?b=F&pn=XG9688

OEM has higher bi-pass of 23 and the Fram Ultra is in the 9 - 15 range with a less restrictive synthetic media.


Does FRAM specify that filter for your car? If so, I'd say it's OK to run. The bypass pressure setting is probably lower because of the synthetic media which flow better and has less delta-p.

 

[147_Grain]

Fram specifically recommended the XG9688 for my application. Have a few more OEM to use up before trying the Ultra.

 

[Izb]

2 questions:
1) What is the name of japaneese producer of WIX 57830?
2) Does STI filter ( http://www.sti.jp/e/parts/catalogue/common/oil_filter.pdf ) have not bypass valve?

 

[Blue_Goose]

Originally Posted By: Izb
2 questions:
1) What is the name of japaneese producer of WIX 57830?
2) Does STI filter ( http://www.sti.jp/e/parts/catalogue/common/oil_filter.pdf ) have not bypass valve?



I have a Napa Gold made by Wix 557830 and it is made in Mexico?

 

[Izb]

any new filters?

 

[Nate1979]

Fram Ultra works just fine for Subies.