New Mobil Clean 5000 VOA
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I found an OLD (to me) bottle of Clean 5000 5w30. The bottle has about 200ml left.
The code on the bottle is:
97Y891T3014003
Below that is tough to read but best guess:
P041310F ( the 3 is ROUGH guess, could be a 2 )
I only ever bought Clean ONCE, so I know this bottle is at least 8 months old.
If anyone wants it for sample, just let me know where to send.
The code on the bottle is:
97Y891T3014003
Below that is tough to read but best guess:
P041310F ( the 3 is ROUGH guess, could be a 2 )
I only ever bought Clean ONCE, so I know this bottle is at least 8 months old.
If anyone wants it for sample, just let me know where to send.
FWIW, here is another UOA showing 200 PPM of Na:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=003129
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=003129
Since no one has updated this UOA showing that this oil does not contain sodium. It is now proof that Mobil Drive Clean 5000 does contain 200+ PPM of sodium.
This is Sodium Sulfonate (like Calcium Sulfonate)
From google: Sodium Alkyl Aryl Sulfonate is used as an emulsifier for lubricants and as a corrosion inhibitor to protect metals
And: Motor Oil and Fuel Additives
The sodium sulfonates are often converted to calcium or barium salts for this application; however, in some situations the sodium sulfonates may be preferred. Detergency and rust inhibitive properties are the most important functions when used as additives.
From google: Sodium Alkyl Aryl Sulfonate is used as an emulsifier for lubricants and as a corrosion inhibitor to protect metals
And: Motor Oil and Fuel Additives
The sodium sulfonates are often converted to calcium or barium salts for this application; however, in some situations the sodium sulfonates may be preferred. Detergency and rust inhibitive properties are the most important functions when used as additives.
See practicingoilanalysis dot com:
In an engine oil formulation, the next most common additive is the detergent. This additive is typically present in the oil at about 2 percent to 3 percent. Detergents are used primarily to control acids formed by the combustion of impurities found in the fuel. However, it does have some ability to “wash” the metal surfaces of organic deposits. There are several types of detergents that are used in these formulations. The most important of these are sulfonates. The chemistry of the sulfonate is somewhat similar to the dispersant in that it has a hydrocarbon tail and a polar head. The hydrocarbon tail is much shorter, being only a C-16 to C-30 alkyl benzene. The polar head is the salt of a sulfonic acid, typically calcium, magnesium or sodium. In addition to this neutral sulfonate salt, the detergent typically contains an excessive amount of metal carbonate, which is incorporated in the center of the micelle. ...
In an engine oil formulation, the next most common additive is the detergent. This additive is typically present in the oil at about 2 percent to 3 percent. Detergents are used primarily to control acids formed by the combustion of impurities found in the fuel. However, it does have some ability to “wash” the metal surfaces of organic deposits. There are several types of detergents that are used in these formulations. The most important of these are sulfonates. The chemistry of the sulfonate is somewhat similar to the dispersant in that it has a hydrocarbon tail and a polar head. The hydrocarbon tail is much shorter, being only a C-16 to C-30 alkyl benzene. The polar head is the salt of a sulfonic acid, typically calcium, magnesium or sodium. In addition to this neutral sulfonate salt, the detergent typically contains an excessive amount of metal carbonate, which is incorporated in the center of the micelle. ...
Any update about the sodium from AV Lube- Yes/ No???
Updates...anyone??
Looks like George left town for good.quote:
Originally posted by buster:
George was supposed to look in to this but has never got back to us.
What are the ramification of a high sodium content?
(I'm using this oil currently)
(I'm using this oil currently)
FYI -- Earlier in this thread someone stated that Exxon Superflo was identical to the Mobil Clean 5000 and both were high in sodium. Well I just did a UOA on Exxon Superflo 5w20 SM oil and it apparently does not use a lot of sodium as an additive.
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...ge=0#Post793393
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...ge=0#Post793393
Any more information on the Na content in this oil? Isn't it what Honda HG 5W-20 is (Mobile Clean 5000 5W-20=Honda HG 5W-20)? I'm using the Honda oil.
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