New Mobil 1 Racing 0W30 VOA
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Originally Posted By: buster
I wouldn't. Not necessary and not formulated for a modern engine. ZDP levels this high can be bad for aluminum components and emission system.
I have a Race Header with no CAT so i'm not too worried about it. The aluminum engine on the other hand is a concern...
I'd run anything in the Si if it has extra anti-wear additives. Haha.
I wouldn't. Not necessary and not formulated for a modern engine. ZDP levels this high can be bad for aluminum components and emission system.
I have a Race Header with no CAT so i'm not too worried about it. The aluminum engine on the other hand is a concern...
I'd run anything in the Si if it has extra anti-wear additives. Haha.
Overkill and probably mis-application for you Artem. These oils are more about enduring severe apps and protecting an engine for 'short' lived life expectancy. That's my take, anyway. How many race cars are built to last 20 years and continued to be driven with minimal HP/slight compression loss etc?
VOA in text format
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Elements PPM
ALUMINUM 0
CHROMIUM 0
IRON 2
COPPER 0
LEAD 2
TIN 2
MOLYBDENUM 1654
NICKEL 0
MANGANESE 0
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 0
POTASSIUM 6
BORON 118
SILICON 14
SODIUM 8
CALCIUM 3152
MAGNESIUM 8
PHOSPHORUS 2202
ZINC 2442
BARIUM 0
cSt Viscosity @ 100°C 62.9
SUS Viscosity @ 210°F 11.03
Flashpoint in °F 415
Fuel % -
Antifreeze % -
Water % 0.0
Insolubles % 0.0
TBN 9.9
TAN
ISO Code
Code:
Elements PPM
ALUMINUM 0
CHROMIUM 0
IRON 2
COPPER 0
LEAD 2
TIN 2
MOLYBDENUM 1654
NICKEL 0
MANGANESE 0
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 0
POTASSIUM 6
BORON 118
SILICON 14
SODIUM 8
CALCIUM 3152
MAGNESIUM 8
PHOSPHORUS 2202
ZINC 2442
BARIUM 0
cSt Viscosity @ 100°C 62.9
SUS Viscosity @ 210°F 11.03
Flashpoint in °F 415
Fuel % -
Antifreeze % -
Water % 0.0
Insolubles % 0.0
TBN 9.9
TAN
ISO Code
You could use that oil as an additive to your street oil.
One quart of that mixed with 5 quarts of regular oil would give you 276ppm moly and boost your zinc about 400ppm
One quart of that mixed with 5 quarts of regular oil would give you 276ppm moly and boost your zinc about 400ppm
Originally Posted By: Ringo
Yes. I am running 2.5 qts M1 0w30 AFE, 24 oz M1R 0w30, and 8oz Lubeguard BioTech in my Hyundai.
^I'd love to see a UOA on that.
Yes. I am running 2.5 qts M1 0w30 AFE, 24 oz M1R 0w30, and 8oz Lubeguard BioTech in my Hyundai.
^I'd love to see a UOA on that.
I am waiting, really like to see the UOA as well
Using this stuff on a street car is like you eating carb gels all day because "athletes eat them, so it must be good, right." No you'll just get fat.
It does have a decent TBN, BUT, Mobil also does state to NOT use it for street cars, due to the lack of (any??) real detergents (even if the add pack levels were OK for catcons/emissions systems).
Am I the only one thinking error in the VOA? I don't think Mobil would really put that much ZDDP as we know too much ZDDP is harmful.
Originally Posted By: Garak
Mobil claims 1850 ppm here. That's still too high for normal street use, but that's not the intention of this product.
Yap, 1850 Zn and 1750 P. I can believe these numbers all right.
The link is a great resource, BTW.
This part is interesting:
Quote:
0W-30
Advanced full synthetic formula
specifically designed to maximize
horsepower under race
conditions.
0W-50
Advanced full synthetic formula
specifically designed to maximize
engine protection under race
conditions.
I always believed Mo in engine oil is to decrease friction (in boundary conditions) and not to decrease wear.
Mobil claims 1850 ppm here. That's still too high for normal street use, but that's not the intention of this product.
Yap, 1850 Zn and 1750 P. I can believe these numbers all right.
The link is a great resource, BTW.
This part is interesting:
Quote:
0W-30
Advanced full synthetic formula
specifically designed to maximize
horsepower under race
conditions.
0W-50
Advanced full synthetic formula
specifically designed to maximize
engine protection under race
conditions.
I always believed Mo in engine oil is to decrease friction (in boundary conditions) and not to decrease wear.
Originally Posted By: friendly_jacek
The link is a great resource, BTW.
I just wish they'd cover the conventional line for us. The HDEO line is fairly well documented already on their sheets, though.
As for friction versus wear for Mo, isn't it considered an anti-wear additive anyhow?
The link is a great resource, BTW.
I just wish they'd cover the conventional line for us. The HDEO line is fairly well documented already on their sheets, though.
As for friction versus wear for Mo, isn't it considered an anti-wear additive anyhow?
Originally Posted By: Jax_RX8
This oil has enough additives in it, it could be used as an additive - run M1 0W30 AFE oil change and substitute one quart of this in your oil change to pull up the Moly and ZDDP.
Exactly.... that is what I am doing... 1 qt. 0w-30 racing oil as a supplement in my 7 qt. pan. I have a 393 stroker @ 500HP and I want the xxxtra protection.
This oil has enough additives in it, it could be used as an additive - run M1 0W30 AFE oil change and substitute one quart of this in your oil change to pull up the Moly and ZDDP.
Exactly.... that is what I am doing... 1 qt. 0w-30 racing oil as a supplement in my 7 qt. pan. I have a 393 stroker @ 500HP and I want the xxxtra protection.
Originally Posted By: Tron1
Originally Posted By: Jax_RX8
This oil has enough additives in it, it could be used as an additive - run M1 0W30 AFE oil change and substitute one quart of this in your oil change to pull up the Moly and ZDDP.
Exactly.... that is what I am doing... 1 qt. 0w-30 racing oil as a supplement in my 7 qt. pan. I have a 393 stroker @ 500HP and I want the xxxtra protection.
You also get the benefits of the AFE's detergent pack with this mix, if it is a street car.
Originally Posted By: Jax_RX8
This oil has enough additives in it, it could be used as an additive - run M1 0W30 AFE oil change and substitute one quart of this in your oil change to pull up the Moly and ZDDP.
Exactly.... that is what I am doing... 1 qt. 0w-30 racing oil as a supplement in my 7 qt. pan. I have a 393 stroker @ 500HP and I want the xxxtra protection.
You also get the benefits of the AFE's detergent pack with this mix, if it is a street car.
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