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Very nuts. I use CFL's and make an educated choice to use them as knowing they have ugly mercury and fire hazard issues. Regulation requiring everyone to use them is a waste of time.

I thought this was the land of the free???
 
I knew about the mercury. What are the fire hazard issues? I've got these things installed everywhere. I found some Sylvania bulbs that are made in Mexico. Is that better than China?
 
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Fire hazard: I had a bulb where something went terribly wrong in the electronics in the base. Thankfully I was home, as I smelled something burning. Bulb base was so hot that the plastic was smoldering. It was either a Feit brand or Sylvania brand. Don't know which is better in the mexico vs china question...

You can find more cfl fire stories online...
 
Great invention, but as with most stuff (that universal law that they never taught us in skewl) you exchange big problems for more manageable problems. You still have problems.

Regulations appear where the market and reality are in conflict. We are not free. We are granted assured liberties. Freedom means chaos.
 
I bought some CFL bulbs just to see if they lasted longer. I usually replaced the outside bulbs every 6 months because they keep blowing. I put CFL bulbs in them last Halloween and they're still going. If they last 2 years then they've paid for themselves.

Energy conservation is a fine idea, but there needs to be an efficient alternative (which E-85 is NOT) that won't raise costs by a large percentage. Until we get that alternative, no mandates should be made.
 
Originally Posted By: kd5byb
Very nuts. I use CFL's and make an educated choice to use them as knowing they have ugly mercury and fire hazard issues. Regulation requiring everyone to use them is a waste of time.

I thought this was the land of the free???


What made you think that?
 
The man is nuts, just like his namesake..Edgar Allen Poe. I would suspect Rush Limbaugh would agree with him. Its our god given right to waste energy.

You just saw a reason why all the lights in this county will go out.

I couldn't stomach listing to the whole thing.
 
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Perhaps a debate about the criminal aspects of manhole covers could be next.

Have you pondered what would occur if sewer gases exploded and those lids popped up and landed on people running around due to the sewer gas explosion?

Have you no humanity in left in your soul!!!
 
Originally Posted By: Johnny
You need to see this. We are going nuts in this country.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg


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Cracked me up...

Maybe the law should not ban the old style bulbs but tax them out of existence (add a so called energy efficiency tax). Let the market decide what happens to them.
 
Well, I think he's actually setting up a surcharge on the CF's due to environmental impact. I imagine it would not be too hard to implement. You just do it like you do with car batteries.

Now if you find out that he's pals with someone who is poised to go into Mercury reclamation .....
 
Originally Posted By: ConfederateTyrant
I bought some CFL bulbs just to see if they lasted longer. I usually replaced the outside bulbs every 6 months because they keep blowing. I put CFL bulbs in them last Halloween and they're still going. If they last 2 years then they've paid for themselves.

I have 5 CFL bulbs that I bought in the summer of 2001 that are still in use so I think I got my moneys worth from them.
 
I couldn't afford to be as wasteful as I am without them (imagine PROUD Energy Star flying by). They've paid for themselves many times over in economy and longevity. It was a great alternative to beating the children and fighting with the wife over lights being left on needlessly. I bought them when they were expensive.
 
Back home in Germany we began using CFL bulbs at my house in 1990. At least one of those bulbs (a philips) is still in use (I saw it a few weeks ago) in the bathroom. The bulbs back then looked different. They had an even more massive base and the glass part was a U-shaped tube. The cost was back then about $15 per bulb.

Here in the US, I switched to all CFL bulbs (besides in some equipment that requires tungsten or halogen bulbs) about 6 or 7 years ago. Some of the inexpensive ones that I have bought since haven't lasted more than 6 months. I stay now with the better brands, and I have no more issues with service life so far. One or two bulbs have been buzzy.
 
I've converted my entire apt to these money saving bulbs. I'm a sucker for saving cash, environment be [censored].
 
Yep, on my first ever trip to IKEA (and my last) about $7 years ago, they had CFLs (11W) for the cheap at the time price of 2 for $5.

Bought enough to do the whole house, and did it in one swoop.

It was significantly noticeable on my next electricity bill
 
Originally Posted By: moribundman
Back home in Germany we began using CFL bulbs at my house in 1990. At least one of those bulbs (a philips) is still in use (I saw it a few weeks ago) in the bathroom. The bulbs back then looked different. They had an even more massive base and the glass part was a U-shaped tube. The cost was back then about $15 per bulb.

Here in the US, I switched to all CFL bulbs (besides in some equipment that requires tungsten or halogen bulbs) about 6 or 7 years ago. Some of the inexpensive ones that I have bought since haven't lasted more than 6 months. I stay now with the better brands, and I have no more issues with service life so far. One or two bulbs have been buzzy.


I remember back around 1998 or so when the CFLs became more well known. The first bulb I bought was the GE triple U tube shape and was bulky, it cost me $24.99. I remember the some of the older Sylvania CFLs were made in Germany but now made in China. Lights of America brand used to be made in USA but now made in China. I actually still have the USA made one which is rather bulky but still works from when I purchased it few years ago. A couple of other Lights of American bulbs burned out prematurely, one which only lasted a few weeks.

I only switched to the CFLs in my house for long duration applications. This means living room and kitchen which the light is on continuous for at least 1 hour. In the bathroom which sees a lot of on/off cycles for short time, the CFL did not last more than 6 months so I went back to incandescent instead after the 2nd CFLs burned out. So some applications incandescent is a better choice and same goes for CFLs.
 
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The last CFLs I bought were made by Felt and all of them have been in service for more than a year. I think I paid about $5 for a pack of three 23 (100W equivalent) bulbs.

Not sure about UV output of CFLs. Probably we all should to put on sunscreen indoors.
 
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