Net Neutrality

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Net neutrality good.

Broad, ill-defined government regulation bad.

My opinion on this undecided.
 
What makes me scared if when you have more $$ you can dictate what and how fast you and your "competitors" web broadcast and contents speed could be if someone pays more money than you. It would be like the best AMSOIL dealer, only getting access to SSO 0W30 (for example) and other less productive dealers not getting the same choice. Just because they aren't as "productive". Maybe I am misreading the CNN article, but it sounds like another preventing monopoly and the richest people controlling what we watch, listen to etc. I say the guy with one dollar should be able to get his voice heard like the millionaire. Even if no one listens. That is freedom to me.
 
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bwahahahah. is there someone reading this that actually thinks we have net neutrality?

I got a bridge in the everglades to pitch to ya...
 
There needs to be some protection for the customers like me to make sure that I can have access to the same content whether I am a Comcast, ATT or Brighthouse customer.

It's good that FCC is forming a consumer friendly framework. but I agree with Pablo, the protection doesn't go far enough and the 3-4 entities that control the infrastructure will find ways to shape the traffic they allow their customers to access.
 
net neutrality is more than just WHAT you can get. it also involves WHEN or HOW FAST you can get it.

various providers already restrict access according to whatever puritan moral code they think they operate on, but delaying or dropping packets is a well worn technique.
 
Cable TV companies have it SO EASY. They've managed to avoid having to provide "a la carte" service, channel by channel. They claim satellite TV is the same thing and competition; not so if you live in an apartment building or without a view of the southern sky.

But they are SCARED of the internet letting you subscribe to say a live football arrangement... DirecTV has the exclusive NFL Sunday Ticket but what's to stop the NFL from webcasting, that's a separate distribution channel and DirecTV would be quaking in their boots if that were allowed to happen.

"Everyone" was trying to block XM or Sirious when it was trying to add video to their data stream, as their satellite license said "audio and ancillary services".

In short, media distribution is huge, it's centered in the US, it doesn't pollute (so it won't be as tempting to offshore), and these fights are going to be fought here over BIG money. This is why we have draconian laws like DMCA.

Net neutrality WILL be over media (video) distribution. iTunes takes some bandwidth but netflix, hulu, and youtube take LOTS MORE. And the current media empire, conveniently controlling the "last mile" to your house, is fighting.

A cunning DSL/FIOS phone company or even wireless could come out WAY ahead if they pledged neutrality.

BTW the state of value broadband internet in the US is not as good as many other countries.
 
Woah...
So you guys have unlimited plans ?

Every Oz plan I've ever seen has some sort of limit.

My $39.95/mo was 1GB peak and 1GB off peak per month, (at 256k - I'm in rural areas) then profiled back to 56k transfer after the quote was reached...been on that for as long as ADSL was available. Started BITOG on dial-up.

Due to the market expanding, I just got a free upgrade to 512K, and 5GB Peak/Off peak before profiling.

Govt is installing a National Broadband Network at the moment to give all access to super fast (by Oz standards)...and I don';t like it.

http://broadbandguide.com.au/fastest/plans
http://broadbandguide.com.au/cheap/plans
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow

My $39.95/mo was 1GB peak and 1GB off peak per month, (at 256k - I'm in rural areas) then profiled back to 56k transfer after the quote was reached...been on that for as long as ADSL was available. Started BITOG on dial-up.

Being used to 21 mps down and 3.3mps up with no limits. I would be throwing the 'ol computer out the window.

But a man's gotta' do what a man's gotta do.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Woah...
So you guys have unlimited plans ?

Every Oz plan I've ever seen has some sort of limit.

My $39.95/mo was 1GB peak and 1GB off peak per month, (at 256k - I'm in rural areas) then profiled back to 56k transfer after the quote was reached...been on that for as long as ADSL was available. Started BITOG on dial-up.

Due to the market expanding, I just got a free upgrade to 512K, and 5GB Peak/Off peak before profiling.

Govt is installing a National Broadband Network at the moment to give all access to super fast (by Oz standards)...and I don';t like it.

http://broadbandguide.com.au/fastest/plans
http://broadbandguide.com.au/cheap/plans


I probably use 3 Gb a day.
 
And you know how the cable companies are going to sell net non neutrality. They'll blame "glutton" neighbors for watching endless movies as the reason your email and static web pages are so slow. If they could punish the "over-the-top-jerks" your stuff will go faster at no cost to you.

Some of us have had broadband for a decade and used 1% of its capacity. Now that we've found streaming stuff, this killer app, to use the bandwidth we've been paying for ALL THIS TIME, they're getting testy.

And their wholesale fiber optic bandwidth bill keeps shrinking per unit of measure. Just greed, and fear of (video) "cord cutters".
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino

And their wholesale fiber optic bandwidth bill keeps shrinking per unit of measure. Just greed, and fear of (video) "cord cutters".


I thought of just watching everything online and not have basic cable tv anymore, but my wife didn't want nothing of it. We do have four flat screens to use and no cable tv on them would suck.
 
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Woah...
So you guys have unlimited plans ?


yep..in the land of the free..
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Originally Posted By: Cutehumor
Originally Posted By: Shannow
Woah...
So you guys have unlimited plans ?


yep..in the land of the free..
grin.gif



But since we seem to be moving toward Euro/Aussieness maybe not for long.

My gripe and maybe selfish but my set up works well now....
 
I use 100GB per month according to the quota check on Comast. Comcast allows 250GB/month before a note goes out.

I think 20Mbs Up/3 down is a great deal for $50/month. I work 100% from home doing IT work.
 
Originally Posted By: Al
Being used to 21 mps down and 3.3mps up with no limits. I would be throwing the 'ol computer out the window.

But a man's gotta' do what a man's gotta do.


Yep, and seriously, it's only been the last fortnight when they upgraded us that Youtube plays through, without 30 second chunks.

It's great compared to where we've been.

Although with dial-up, and pre a work mobile, I'd leave the dial up 500MB plan hooked up to avoid inane phone calls.
 
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