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Originally Posted By: dparm
I will say what I say to everyone: if you are not satisfied with the results, find a new doctor.
Our doctor has been great and I'm sure its hormones that need supplementing during the rough days but I wanted to find someone who went through this similarly so we could tell our doctor about their experiences in hopes we could avoid some trial/error situations to speed up the process of finding the right treatment for her because the pain is so awful.
 
Originally Posted By: c3po
Steve, my neighbor's wife had this, meaning it did not matter if she was taking her anti-depression medicine, she still would just stay in a bed for a few days and then it passed.

Sometimes eating certain kind of foods can either put you in a good mood or a bad mood.
Thanks... Tried the food thing, and anti-depressants didn't work not even combination of them. Even things like Xanax and Ativan didn't work.
 
This thread made me remember to look up a naturopath whose office I passed by earlier today. As it happens, his web site talks about cures for common problems, one of which is depression.

His approach is "nourish the nerve system". Googling in that vein might provide you some answers.
 
Originally Posted By: Oilpants
Beer and danish pastries help me when Im dpressed. Thats probably more of a guys cure but i know my wife eats candy bars when shes under the wether?
I wish it were that easy...
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Originally Posted By: TooManyWheels
This thread made me remember to look up a naturopath whose office I passed by earlier today. As it happens, his web site talks about cures for common problems, one of which is depression.

His approach is "nourish the nerve system". Googling in that vein might provide you some answers.

A note about "alternative" healers:

If an "alternative" treatment were ever proven to work, it would no longer be alternative medicine. It would just become medicine. The fact that it's considered alternative therefore means, pretty much by definition, that it hasn't been proven. That doesn't mean it doesn't work, but odds are it's no better than placebo.

As far as it's possible to tell, the positive results from "alternative" therapies most likely come from the incredible amount of time and attention that the practitioners give their patients -- much more than most doctors. Of course, for mood-related issues, that may be just the ticket. But if you can find a real doctor that provides the same level of service, it'll be even better.
 
StevieC, I know that exercise, diet and sleep can seriously impact health and attitude and can be due to long-term cumulative effects. If this has an effect in this case (quite likely) a complete reversal would still take weeks or months to show significant change.

Eliminating processed foods, getting significant exercise and sleep really can save lives.

Evaluating sleep-debt and changing habits is not easy.
 
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Pesca

Do you want me to ask my wife more information about that product?
Yes Please!


Ok, just got her on the phone, but unfortunately, I was wrong about thinking they were the same symptoms.

The IUD is named Mirena but when you google its name, you will see that one of the inconveniences is depression, so definitively not what you want. BTW, she told me that no doctor will give IUD to women older than 45, so even if it would have been good for her, she would probably not be able to get it anyway.

For my wife, it was to decrease womb pain, menstrual pains and migraine. The added bonus was to regulate her hormones level which in result would decrease her PMSs. There was no depression involved (except may be that she had me as husband, but it is more of an aftermath thing).

Then I talked about your mom's problems, and she told me to try get what it is called "Joy Oils", which are soy oils with a lot of vitamin E and Lecithin in it. Also eating food with a lot of Omega 3,6 and 9 should help.

Sorry not to be of more help, but I believe you will have to wait for her lab results to know for sure what side her hormonal imbalance goes (Estrogen or Progesterone).
From what I read while googling all that, waiting for my wife to call, you will be able to find some natural cream of either one of this hormone to help balance her level.

Hope she will get well soon.
 
Originally Posted By: martinq
StevieC, I know that exercise, diet and sleep can seriously impact health and attitude and can be due to long-term cumulative effects. If this has an effect in this case (quite likely) a complete reversal would still take weeks or months to show significant change.

Eliminating processed foods, getting significant exercise and sleep really can save lives.

Evaluating sleep-debt and changing habits is not easy.
My moms sleep problems are a result of these 5 days and when she isn't having this problem she sleeps fine.

As for diet, I would have a hard time finding someone that eats any better than her. She isn't a health nut, but eats extremely well and processed foods probably make up less than 1% of her diet.

She is also the ideal weight and exercises regularly.
 
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Pesca

Do you want me to ask my wife more information about that product?
Yes Please!


Ok, just got her on the phone, but unfortunately, I was wrong about thinking they were the same symptoms.

The IUD is named Mirena but when you google its name, you will see that one of the inconveniences is depression, so definitively not what you want. BTW, she told me that no doctor will give IUD to women older than 45, so even if it would have been good for her, she would probably not be able to get it anyway.

For my wife, it was to decrease womb pain, menstrual pains and migraine. The added bonus was to regulate her hormones level which in result would decrease her PMSs. There was no depression involved (except may be that she had me as husband, but it is more of an aftermath thing).

Then I talked about your mom's problems, and she told me to try get what it is called "Joy Oils", which are soy oils with a lot of vitamin E and Lecithin in it. Also eating food with a lot of Omega 3,6 and 9 should help.

Sorry not to be of more help, but I believe you will have to wait for her lab results to know for sure what side her hormonal imbalance goes (Estrogen or Progesterone).
From what I read while googling all that, waiting for my wife to call, you will be able to find some natural cream of either one of this hormone to help balance her level.

Hope she will get well soon.


Pesca, thank you very much!
 
Couple of suggestions (even though some are already covered in the thread and lifestyle anyway).

Sunshine - vit D
Exercise
Diet - get rid of simple refined garbage.
EFT while you are waiting for more formal advice.
 
I am not a doctor and have NO medical background. That said, sounds like hormone therapy is the best solution, but there are other things that could also be less than optimum that would also add to the total mental and physical demands on her.

The majority of the population have less than ideal amounts of calcium, and vitamin D in their system, and many are also low in Iron. Some people require calcium along with vitamin D before there system will improve in amount. Blood work should include a look at calcium, vitamin D, and Iron levels. If Iron is low, Slow Iron may be the best, and it might be required twice a day (about 12 hours apart).

There are also some herbal supplements that some swear by. Valerian root extract before bed time is one of them that rejuvenates some people. The side effects are vivid dreams (but not necessarily unpleasant). The higher the dosage the better it works but also the more vivid the dreams. Some take as much as three of the 350 mg capsules. Some only one or two. It is an over the counter item.

Also, there are doctors who specialize in dealing with people in pain. They are called "physiatrist" (the beginning of this word is from the word physical because they deal with physical pain). I do not know if this type of doctor would see her but if they would they probably could help some.
 
A good sleep aid is Melatonin 3mg. It is over the counter. This is a sugar. It is the same sugar found in a large glass of milk that has been heated in a pot on a stove. It is a great sleep aid.
 
Originally Posted By: JimPghPA
A good sleep aid is Melatonin 3mg. It is over the counter. This is a sugar. It is the same sugar found in a large glass of milk that has been heated in a pot on a stove. It is a great sleep aid.


Hi Jim,

Melatonin is not any kind of sugar, it is a hormone produced by the pinneal gland. Please be advised that melatonin can considerably and critically worsen mood disorders and depression. Many people will have very vivid dreams after taking melatonin. Even though melatonin is available without prescription, I would not advise anyone to self-medicate without prior professional approval.

Cheers,
-J
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
I'd imagine in addition to medical maybe religion would help a lot.

Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
the religious end will help too.

...with God's help...

Evidently the mods don't see this as a violation of board policy, so I guess it's fair game.

I'm a little puzzled as to why you think she should subjugate herself to an imaginary being that, if it were real, would by definition be responsible for giving her the affliction in the first place. Given that the problem can most likely be addressed and mitigated by entirely real means, I don't see why this would even be helpful, let alone necessary.

Are you perhaps suggesting that this is punishment for immoral acts and character flaws that she must first acknowledge and then apologize for? I'm all for humility, but she is clearly in a vulnerable state and I don't think it's a good idea to encourage her to blame herself for all of her failings at once.

Or, maybe you're just suggesting that prayer itself will help, regardless of the existence or intervention of a supreme being. That's superficially plausible, but there's no evidence besides anecdotes that it'll work -- and some evidence that it won't: http://www.ahjonline.com/article/PIIS0002870305006496/abstract

And in any case, how do you figure that encouraging her to retreat from reality will help in the long run?

Interested to hear your responses.
 
This is not addressed to you Stevie. I just happened to respond to a post that popped your name up there.

We have just had a demonstration of what happens when the rules are relaxed a bit in an exceptional case. Someone will take advantage of it.

This isn't the 2nd grade, just because someone else is having a bad time of things and isn't completely following the rules doesn't give anyone an excuse to act out.
 
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