Need help with washing machine

[Oldmoparguy1]

Hello all,
I think I already know the answer to this, but I'll ask here anyway. It never hurts to get another opinion.

Brand is Admiral

Model # AAV7000AWW

Serial Number 25440324GV

Washing Machine was moved to the new house and now fails to complete the full cycle.
Washer stops after the wash cycle and never starts the rinse cycle. Failure is the same on all settings.

Unit worked fine before move. No sign of damage from move.

It appears that the timer has failed. New timer costs $125 at PartSelect.com. I'm hoping that there is another less expensive possibility.

Thanks,

Wayne

 

[Rand]

if the timer failed why would it fail at same spot on all settings?

 

[Oldmoparguy1]

Originally Posted By: Rand
if the timer failed why would it fail at same spot on all settings?


That was my question. I plan to go over there later, (my son's new house), and remove the top cover. Maybe it's just a loose wire.

Wayne

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Press down on the washing machine lid, right after it shuts off. Actually press hard where the the lid pin meets that spring contraption. It's the meeting point where we can manually start the agitator with the lid open.

I have no idea what it's called,. But sticking a small allen wrench in there fixed my problem, as long as I keep a small bucket filled with landscaping rocks over that springy thing, when the lid is closed and the machine is running. Doing so allows it to run from one cycle to the next.

When my machine breaks down with a different problem in the future, I'll buy a new spring-thingy contraption to fix this.... killing two birds with one stone.

 

[RF Overlord]

Maybe the little pin on the lid that's supposed to press down on the safety switch is broken/bent/dislodged. That would make the symptoms the OP is reporting.

 

[bepperb]

Usually I can find the part number online and then order a used one from ebay for 1/4 the cost....

 

[Azeem]

This Admiral is made by Maytag in their few sketchy years before they sold out to Whirlpool in 2006.Big time Transmission problems.

Used to work on them and rarely found a customer willing to pay $300 for labor and parts.Timers usually get a dead spot in one cycle Not all the cycles,not saying it couldn't happen but still a slim possibility.

try taking the belt off and turn the pulley for agitation and see if it's locked up?

Does it spin?

Any humming?

 

[JamesBond]

Does it do the high speed spin after the wash cycle?

We had an Amana that was acting strangely like you describe. I thought it may be the timer (it always seems like its the timer) but after a pro was called in it turned out to be the clutch not letting it get through a high speed spin.

 

[Azeem]

His washing machine doesn't have clutch assembly like your Amana which is most probably made by Whirlpool after 2007.Common clutch problems with Whirlpool made including Whirlpool,Kenmore,Roper,Amana,Admiral,Kirkland,Maytag and Inglis direct drive top loader washers which usually manifest itself by slow spinning and clothes soaking wet after the cycle is finished.

The Op's washer is belt driven and back when I worked at pre-owned appliance store they usually had transmission,bearing,tub seal and motor problems.

I hope it turns out to be something simple like loose wire on the timer,a sock dislodged in the water pump or lid switch assembly.

GL

 

[Oldmoparguy1]

Originally Posted By: Azeem
This Admiral is made by Maytag in their few sketchy years before they sold out to Whirlpool in 2006.Big time Transmission problems.

Used to work on them and rarely found a customer willing to pay $300 for labor and parts.Timers usually get a dead spot in one cycle Not all the cycles,not saying it couldn't happen but still a slim possibility.

try taking the belt off and turn the pulley for agitation and see if it's locked up?

Does it spin?

Any humming?


Thanks Azeem.

The wash cycle works to completion, fills, agitates, empties, spins, shuts off. The rinse cycle never starts, just sits there. Yes, it humms..

Spent some time looking at the wiring diagram, I'm thinking there is an issue with the cold water solenoid. The old place,(apartment), had city water, 50 psi water pressure, new house in on a well, water pressure is not very high.

Washer was bought 4-5 years ago from Home Depot, PartSelect.com site lists it as mfg. by Whirlpool, lots of good info there.

Appreciate the heads-up on the Admiral/Whirlpool connection, I will take it apart first before ordering any parts.

Wayne

 

[Azeem]

Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1
Originally Posted By: Azeem
This Admiral is made by Maytag in their few sketchy years before they sold out to Whirlpool in 2006.Big time Transmission problems.

Used to work on them and rarely found a customer willing to pay $300 for labor and parts.Timers usually get a dead spot in one cycle Not all the cycles,not saying it couldn't happen but still a slim possibility.

try taking the belt off and turn the pulley for agitation and see if it's locked up?

Does it spin?

Any humming?


Thanks Azeem.

The wash cycle works to completion, fills, agitates, empties, spins, shuts off. The rinse cycle never starts, just sits there. Yes, it humms..

Spent some time looking at the wiring diagram, I'm thinking there is an issue with the cold water solenoid. The old place,(apartment), had city water, 50 psi water pressure, new house in on a well, water pressure is not very high.

Washer was bought 4-5 years ago from Home Depot, PartSelect.com site lists it as mfg. by Whirlpool, lots of good info there.

Appreciate the heads-up on the Admiral/Whirlpool connection, I will take it apart first before ordering any parts.

Wayne




Wayne,well water usually gets the inlet water valve stopped up but it should take some time and if it fills with cold water in the wash cycle then cold water solenoid is good most likely,try swapping hot and cold water hoses and see if there's any difference.

Where's the humming coming from,top of the cabinet,back or bottom?

Yes, your washer was made by Maytag in 2006 and Whirlpool supplies the parts now.

Does it spin and agitate at the same time?

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted By: Oldmoparguy1



The wash cycle works to completion, fills, agitates, empties, spins, shuts off. The rinse cycle never starts, just sits there. Yes, it humms..


Wayne


Did you even attempt my suggested test? You made no mention of it.

Did you try pressing down on the lid, where the pin exists, to see if it restarts / enters the rinse cycle?

 

[andyd]

That lid switch controls the spin cycle. OMG says it spins, so switch works. If it worked before the move, but doesn't work now. Sounds like a wire fell off somewhere to me. Good hunting..

 

[Oldmoparguy1]

Originally Posted By: andyd
That lid switch controls the spin cycle. OMG says it spins, so switch works. If it worked before the move, but doesn't work now. Sounds like a wire fell off somewhere to me. Good hunting..


The problem is solved. Nothing wrong with the washer, The problem was that the cold water was shut off. No water, no fill, no rinse. All the lines were hooked up correctly and faucets were both turned on. The clue was some new plastic piping connecting some sort of cartridge filter on the cold water line. The new plumbing had a small gate valve installed next to the cartridge device and the handle was positioned so that it was very difficult to see. The valve was off of course... A real amateur hack job, the gate valve was installed on the wrong side of the filter... sheeese...

Thanks everyone for the help, advice, tips. It all helped me to get my thinking oriented in the right direction.

Wayne