Need help about 2000 chevy truck trans

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So a friend of mine in PA needs a 4L60E trans for a 2000 Silverado, reg cab, 8ft bed with 4wd. He "claims" it is a one yr deal (which is not true at all), and cant find any used ones around. I told him to look harder and he should be able to find maybe a ex military or fleet truck that has a trans like this. Any tips or advice? Supposedly, his friend and him took the trans out and found that the front pump is shot; so with him being non-mechanically inclined/not well versed in auto trans in general, he does not know if he should get a re manned trans or try to find a used one.


thank you in advance
 
What does he use the truck for? If he is hauling or towing heavy loads, the 4L60E is not the best. He may want to buy a fully rebuilt and fully upgraded version of this trans or have it done to his own by a very reputable builder. A used one.....he is taking a chance on somebody elses problems. This web site http://www.pacificp.com/forum/index.php has a lot of info on this trans, its rebuilt cousins and the 4L80E and how to put in a 4L80 if you need the extra potency.
 
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Thx Boomer, and Chris142, he bought the truck from a guy and truck wouldnt move. Runs though. I told him to get either one from GM for $1900 or have it professionally rebuilt. He is in the Clearfield Mtns area also. Dont know what he'll do, as I told him I am in NC not PA. Oh well. Told him since he bought it for cheap, just sell the truck minus trans. Boomer: he does not have a clue what he will use this truck for either, he's kinda a lost soul on these things.
 
I would just take it to a reputable transmission shop given the situation.
Used stuff may be okay if you can pull it and reinstall it yourself but not worth paying to get it done.
 
4L60Es aren't bad IF you have the extra clutches installed and NEVER, EVER, EVER tow in overdrive!!! And I mean NEVER!! External cooler & oversize pan aren't bad ideas either. I've blown the OD sprag in a 4L80E myself, they're not indestructible either.
 
I personally would have it rebuilt, but change all the trouble prone parts with updated versions. Make it the HD version of that transmission. My "00 Silverado has that wonderful 4l60E transmission too
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I was thinking of installing Corvette servo to help firm up sloppy shifts, but still on fence about doing it. I wish it had a manual that my old '78 Chevy had, except with 1 more gear plus OD.
 
If he can't find a 4L60E, he should stop now and farm this job out to someone else. I think more accurately, he probably can't find one for the price he wants to pay.

There are plenty of 4L60Es out there for any application that uses them. It's the same transmission in any other 4WD 1500 GMT800. Reg cab/long bed does not matter unless he is replacing the driveshaft.

Odds are any rebuilt will last longer than he plans to keep the truck, unless he keeps vehicles for a long time/a lot of miles. Every trans shop knows how to rebuild a 4L60E or at least throw one in.
 
There are bunches of slightly different versions of this trans, and it all matters.

He should go get it fixed.

If he's getting into buying dead cars and fixing them, this should not be your problem.

Has he looked on ebay? At least then if it doesn't work out of the box he can stop payment.
 
-this is one of the top three most produced transmissions in the world.
-he should not have any problem locating one.
-for the record i vote for a reman with the latest updates.
-autozone sells a reman 4l60e for $1300 (don't know the quality?)
 
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Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
4L60Es aren't bad IF you have the extra clutches installed and NEVER, EVER, EVER tow in overdrive!!! And I mean NEVER!! External cooler & oversize pan aren't bad ideas either. I've blown the OD sprag in a 4L80E myself, they're not indestructible either.


Thanks for the advice. I am getting ready to make a 500 mile trip with a motorcycle and trailer that I estimate to weigh about 1500 lbs combined. My truck is a 96 gmc sonoma with this trans. I was iffy on how and if I could pull it in OD or just let it rev in 3rd and go on. The trip is all interstate. I always heard that it is ok to pull in OD as long as the torque converter is not unlocking constantly. What do you think? I know this is a somewhat fragile trans under a load and I dont want to destroy mine.
 
I had a 98 Yukon with that S Box transmission in it. Went through a couple of them. Finally, rebuilt it and upgraded it to 4L65E specs and replaced the computer. Then it lasted.
 
Are they fragile, or just intolerant of heat? I thought all the fragile parts got replaced eons ago.

If you "listen" you can hear not only each shift point but when the convertor locks and unlocks. If not that then watch the tach: when the convertor is unlocked the engine looks like it connected to the wheels via a rubber band: apply just a hair more throttle and the rpm rises slightly, with no mph change = convertor unlocked. This is very noticable at low(er) rpm's -- which is where the most slippage occurs. Versus when it is locked up: varying throttle means no rpm change (unless if mph changes).

Slippage = heat generation; force a downshift at that point, and it will either lockup or at least have enough engine rpm's such that slippage is greatly reduced. [The locking torque convertor locks the parts together for no slippage. I don't know if this vintage transmission uses "variable" lockup or not, but IMO it's no better than being unlocked.]

If you are worried there are two things to do: one is get a trans temp guage. A 1996 should have OBDII, and should (should?) have trans temp available over the OBD port. It might not, as this is getting kinda old; but an OBD reader like a Scanguage etc is a plug and play operation. Alternatively you can add a mechanical temp gauge; or finally just add a trans cooler. The vehicle should have one, but if lacks one then I'd add it before long.

A motorcycle on a flat trailer isn't much of a wind load. An enclosed trailer at speed, regardless of weight, is a major wind load.
 
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
4L80E is the answer if you can find one.

No, requires you doing a bunch of other stuff for it to work where a 4L60E is.

Get a rebuilt 4L60E one with the upgrades and shift kit. 1500 to 2000 bucks and you are down the road. Add a nce plate cooler in addition to the the one in the radiator. Heat will kill them. An updated one will have all the good hard parts so you shouldn't be breaking those.
 
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