My first new car!

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Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: jigen
I do not care for Hyundai's looks but I think this car is an exception. Neat looking car! And that's some killer MPG! What do these cars run price-wise? I am out of the loop with Hyundai anymore.


WELL under $20k OTD nicely loaded. Not leather but pretty well everything else.

Also they seem to get closer to the EPA than other models from other brands in this class.

When it comes time to replace the Corolla (it has only 250k on it) this will be on the list to check out.

Bill



I wish it was WELL under 20k OTD. MSRP $20,500, Sticker $19,300, I paid $17,991. Since this model is brand new there isn't any special financing or incentives. There were literally 12 manual cars in the state. A few dealers told me that they would not come off MSRP since its new, and in demand.
 
Originally Posted By: dja4260

I wish it was WELL under 20k OTD. MSRP $20,500, Sticker $19,300, I paid $17,991. Since this model is brand new there isn't any special financing or incentives. There were literally 12 manual cars in the state. A few dealers told me that they would not come off MSRP since its new, and in demand.



$18k for a 20,500 is well below IMB. (I don't know what taxes/fees are in your state. Here its 6.5%, $210 tags/plates/road fees and no one should pay more than $100 for "doc" fees no matter where they live)

They can claim hard to get but each and every time I have had either myself or a friend/family go purchase a vehicle with the stealership claiming the high demand/short supply, once you leave its amazing how quick they call you up and sell the vehicle at a lower price.

Last month my Niece bought a hard to find, in high demand Focus 5 door that other than the rebate the price was sticker minus that rebate.

2 days later we had the car for $1100 less than the "best/last price offer" that we were told the first day.

They are in the business to sell more and build more.

$18k for what you got is an excellent deal. Plus you have to remember that you also have built in that price a extra $1295-$1895 warranty that other brands charge for the longer warranty.

Take care, Bill
 
So, how does it shift, drive? A review would be nice if you have the time. Keep us updated, and congrats on the purchase. Long live mt's!
 
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Originally Posted By: k24a4
So, how does it shift, drive? A review would be nice if you have the time. Keep us updated, and congrats on the purchase. Long live mt's!



I have only put 100 miles on it thus far. Tomorrow I have surgery so I won't be driving for at least a week. I'll give a detailed review after I get some quality seat time. The clutch is like butter.

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If that car were mine I would get four additional rims and have four Bridgestone Blizzaks put on them for the Chicago winter.

Blizzaks are great winter tires but if you run them in warm weather you wear them out quickly. They have a special soft rubber that has both microscopic holes and microscopic hard carbon/silicon particles so it grips on ice. They have about half the traction of studded snow tires on ice. You can get several winters out of a set if you do not run them in warm weather.

BTW, I think tire rack is the main distributor for Bridgestone Blizzaks, and they only get one big shipment in the fall. When you size is sold out you have to wait till next year.
 
Agree, wait for Discount Tire to run a special and grab four wheels + four Blizzaks and you'll be set for 3 or 4 years. DT/DTD often has $50-$100 in rebates if you buy a set.
 
If they are plain steel rims painted black you have to blast off the salt when you remove them, give them at least one day to dry, and then use up about two spray cans of Rustoleum flat black each year when you take them off. If they are plain steel rims be sure to also paint them with the Rustoleum flat black before the first season of use. Be sure to paint a little thicker around the welds. Always wear a air mask when you spray paint, spray paint is nasty stuff to cote the inside of your lungs with. If they are alloy wheels you just blast off the salt at a car wash, and switch the wash to wax. Regardless of what type of wheel you should knock the pressure down to about 6 to 5 PSI and store them on their side with four red bricks against the side wall (not touching the rim) to allow air to flow under the stack of them.

Chicago winters are brutal, even with the warmer winters we have been getting.

I would get the set (all 4) of Bridgestone Blizzaks as soon as tire rack has them for the next winter. Winter arrives early in Chicago, and the last thing you want is to be calling tire rack to order and be told that they are out of your size till next year.
 
Nice i30! And, nice you got a MT!

The new GT is just the i30 hatchback slightly tweaked for the US market. Like the Touring, it shares almost nothing except the name with the Elantra sedan.

And, good to plan ahead, and get a car that'll be useful in 5-7 years, not just right now!
 
And when you take them off in the spring, mark the rims with a white paint pencil so you rotate them front to back, back to front, but keep them on the same side of the vehicle.

If you switch sides you have to remove them and turn them around so they have the same direction of rotation because the force of breaking causes the belts to align in a certain way. Just do not switch sides and you will be fine.
 
Re the Bridgestone Blizzaks, the first half of the tred thickness is the special soft rubber that will grip ice. The second half is plain rubber. Measure the thickness of the tread for the new tires and write it down somewhere where you will not loose it. When they wear down to 1/2 the original, use them as summer tires.
 
My daily commute round trip is 40 miles. Only 10 miles are not highway. You think the winter tires are abslolutely necessary? I managed driving my civic with old tires with not much trouble.
 
Congrats on the purchase! I gotta admit personally I'm not a big fan of the styling on the newer Elantras and Sonatas but I think the body looks better on the GT than the sedan, and I'm glad they are keeping the hatch/wagon version updated in the US market. Can't beat a fuel efficient MT hatchback/wagon for an all around A to B vehicle that still lets you have some fun driving! Can't beat a hatch for a dogmobile either (which I'm guessing this might be based on the picture).

Love the color, and the interior looks nicely laid out (if a bit too "stylish" for my tastes)!
 
Originally Posted By: JimPghPA
If they are plain steel rims painted black
they are alloys, you can see the caliper through the fronts in his pic.
 
Very sporty looking, and nice color!
....and a WEE BIT too "Cute" for me in the looks dept., but nice car overall.
Let us know about driving experiences when you get a few more miles on her.

Congrats!

(My wife owns an Elantra GLS, XD generation 2003 with 196k miles on it with only 1 repair so far; I hope the new Elantras are also dependable like that...)
 
Originally Posted By: dwcopple
Originally Posted By: JimPghPA
If they are plain steel rims painted black
they are alloys, you can see the caliper through the fronts in his pic.


I am thinking about the second set of rims for the winter tires, not the ones he has on it now.
 
Originally Posted By: dja4260
My daily commute round trip is 40 miles. Only 10 miles are not highway. You think the winter tires are abslolutely necessary? I managed driving my civic with old tires with not much trouble.


Once you try a set (all 4) of Blizzaks you will never want to drive in the winter without them.

I only takes a few seconds of sliding on ice to bang up any vehicle. If you have the Blizzkaks, you can watch the other vehicles bend their fenders and rims and remain in complete control of your vehicle.

Over the years here in Pittsburgh I have had several times during the winter that other vehicles were sliding on ice and hitting guardrails or curbs and busting up fenders, and or rims. Ice is a whole nother ball game when it comes to winter driving, and you never know when you might end up driving on ice.

Studded tires are better on ice than Blizzaks, but studded tires make too much noise, and usually they start to throw off the studs during the second winter of use.

Blizzaks have about half the traction of a studded tire on ice, but compared to plain rubber snow tires that can have no traction on ice, the Blizzaks have a whole lot of traction.

As an example of how little traction regular snow tires can have on ice, years ago I had a car that was a manual transmission, and while attending college away from home, one weekend I realized that the fresh new snow would be perfect for doing some fun winter driving in the parking lots of the local mall in the middle of the night. So I went to the local mall and did a few doughnuts. Then I realized that the clouds had completely cleared and the view of the stars was great, so I stopped the car and got out to look. Then I got back in the car and tried to get going again. On flat level ground (asphalt) I let the clutch out and gave it a little gas. That car was not a posi-traction rear end, so as soon as one tire slipped I was not going anywhere. The tire broke loose and spun. I pushed the clutch in and tried again with less gas, same story. So I pushed the clutch in and tried with less gas, and it still spun the tire. So I pushed the clutch in and then let it out very slowly not touching the gas, just on idle, and it still spun the tire. I though I got to see this, so I got out of the car with it still in gear spinning the tire about four seconds per revolution. I left the door open and figured I could push the back bumper and get the car moving and then run and get in. When I pushed the back bumper the car stayed where it was and I slid backwards. Then a old pickup truck with some teenagers came by and said they would get me some salt, they came back in a few minutes with salt and I got going.

Another time I ended up sliding down a hill only going 5 MPH but could not stop. I ended up going side-ways, and then backwards, and then off the road and my back bumper plowed up snow that stopped the car.

Years later when I had Blizzaks I went to a friends house for a family gathering in the winter, vehicles were going very slow because the road was ice. Several vehicles were stuck with their sides all messed up because of hitting the guardrail. I was able to go around them with complete control because of the good ice traction of the Blizzaks.

One winter two men were standing at the top of long road stopping all traffic. They said do not go down that hill, it is all ice and vehicles are sliding off the road and busting up their tires on the curb. I said I have a set of Blizzaks on, I will take it easy and I will be all-right. I slowly went down the hill and two vehicles were changing their tires. One was a van with a bent rim from hitting the curb, the other a car that had a flat from hitting the curb. I went around them with no problem.

Another winter vehicles were spinning their tires and could not go up the hill to exit the mall. I had a vehicle with rear wheel drive without posi-traction. If one of the back tires slipped I would not be able to go. Because all my tires were Blizzaks I was able to drive around the front wheel drive vehicles that were spinning their wheels and going no where.

My brother and his wife put 4 Blizzaks on their car and one winter they were going down-town to see a show. They exited the fort pit tunnel onto the lower level of the fort pit bridge. There is a slight turn and the bridge was icy. They were able to turn. The same size vehicle behind them could not turn and slammed into a cement barrier. Those Blizzak tires more than paid for them-self right then.

The only down side of having Blizzaks is you can stop faster on ice than the car behind you. You have to put them on all 4 regardless of if the vehicle is front wheel drive or rear wheel drive.

And with Blizzaks you can not do doughnuts in the snow for fun. The darn things will not slide enough to allow that.

My brothers wife who is the worlds best penny pincher, tried them, and realizes the advantage of using Blizzaks, and uses them on the vehicle she drives.

As for you question of “do you really need a set of Blizzaks”, YES you do.
 
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