My cousin gets one every three years (drives allot) and on 3rd - Zero issues … (first with I4 now) …Is the 4 cylinder they use now reliable? Its been around for a while at least. The V6 in the earlier ones was absolutely abysmal.
I asked this question here, and the responses I got. I decided to stay away. Only going on collective thought - how could that possibly be wrongMy cousin gets one every three years (drives allot) and on 3rd - Zero issues … (first with I4 now) …
Jury is still out on the new drivetrain.4Runner </thread>
Sister just bought a 2024 Enclave based on a friend’s 6 year old Enclave being perfect … DiL has 2018 XT5 … no issues …I asked this question here, and the responses I got. I decided to stay away. Only going on collective thought - how could that possibly be wrong![]()
School me on this platform - first Gen GM Lambda platform. Seems to have 3.6l GDI and the 6 speed joint developed by GM / Ford? Goods and bads.
Not interested in other recommendations, I know there are many other options. Interested in learning about this platform. Its at a price point I like and fits my needs. I don't need the 3rd row, and it would be used mostly for family road trips but likely not daily.
Thank you in advance for your experiences and opinions!
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Seriously expensive too - so I’d plan to keep it a long time …Jury is still out on the new drivetrain.
Any idea on the timing chain improvement year. I am in the "old and cheap" category of car shopping now.Sister just bought a 2024 Enclave based on a friend’s 6 year old Enclave being perfect … DiL has 2018 XT5 … no issues …
(3.6L) … Wife’s best friend has 2020 XT4 … no issues …
(that’s a 4 banger) …
Plenty of them at work … I think after the early chain problems got sorted they have done Ok …
Anyway read the thread - reminded me why I don’t come here for car buying advice …
Any idea on the timing chain improvement year. I am in the "old and cheap" category of car shopping now.
Jury is still out on the new drivetrain.
That may be, but it’s really old and has comparatively poor driving characteristics, power to weight, comfort, fuel economy, and space. Unless you need body-on-frame, there are better options.The new 6th gen version has yet to even go on sale.
The 5th gen that is currently still for sale, is without question the most reliable mid-size SUV.
The title of the thread states "Most dependable mid-size SUV".That may be, but it’s really old and has comparatively poor driving characteristics, power to weight, comfort, fuel economy, and space. Unless you need body-on-frame, there are better options.
Given the context of OPs question, they would likely be better served by a crossover. If they were going to do off-roading or lots of towing, then I’d be more inclined towards the 4Runner.
I purposely am looking elsewhere than Hyundai / Kia SUV’s , so only American and Japanese SUV’s are in play for consideration . I also prefer a traditional SUV which sits up higher (no new lower sitting SUV’s for me) . Other than reliability , sits up high and has room enough for my wife , German Shepard , luggage , dog necessities and me - then I’m pretty much good .
There’s really no logical reason to live with all the downsides of an ancient body on frame platform when a RAV4 or Highlander is superior in every way except off road.The title of the thread states "Most dependable mid-size SUV".
Then he clarifies his wants with this:
Old the 5th gen 4Runner may be, but no one can seriously argue it's dependability and reliability. It also pretty much perfectly fits his stated wants and desires. Besides also having the rear roll-down window which dogs love.
I feel like I saw an ad just this week or very recent that Mazda is offering hybrid powertrain for the cx5 or 50 (or both?).Are you looking for a midsize 2 row or 3 row?
Are you looking to buy new or preowned?
Keep in mind that your question refers to midsized not compact.
Vehicles are getting larger(in their segment) these days and the compact SUV's are getting quite large, often confusing customers to the segment that they play in.
Mazda doesn't currently have a hybrid yet however their driving dynamics, quality, materials, coachwork are really good with good reliability as well. Can't go wrong with Mazda. I just think that Mazda suffers a bit in fuel economy but they're competitive in the gas only segment.
Toyota's are more about reliability and less so in those other areas. Toyota's are kind of boring and just there. They too have good quality(I find Honda & Mazda to be better) but I find Toyota's to be Ho-hum. But they get the job done!
The Mazda CX-5/50 are in the compact SUV segment whereas the the CX-70/90(2/3 row) are in the midsize segment.
Same with the, e.g., Honda CR-V and Toyota RAV4 which are considered compact.
Whereas the Honda Passport/Pilot(2/3 row) and Toyota Crown Insignia & Highlander(2 & 3 row) are midsize.
According to Consumer Reports, Toyota/Lexus are most likely to be your best bet for reliability(even though Toyota is experiencing issues) and their hybrid vehicles takes that reliability up a notch.
Mazda's 2.5 SkyActiv NA and 6speed auto are well known for durability. The CX-5 and CX-50 both come equipped with that drivetrain. I bought a 24 CX-50 Turbo, and it's now got 25k miles on it. No regrets.
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