more transmission questions

[DARKSCOPE001]

Hello all. ive got some questions that are specific to the hyndai crowd and some that are just general so I figured BITOG would be a good place to ask so here goes.

Ok first off. drained the trans pan and tourqe converter yesterday and made a BIG! mess of stinky transmission fluid. then I filled the transmission back up (way to much not its over filled so I gota fix that tomorow) havent drivent it more than a mile since the last change. I checked it in N with the engine idoling and ths fluid is way high. (what are the consequences of this if I may ask)

Well anyways my question is I want to do this a few more times to get the old fluid that was never changed mostly to new. Im not really liking the drain pan and [censored]. I was eyeballing a fluid extractor. The liquivac caught my eye at the local TSC last time i was in there. I was thinking about getting on and giving it a try for transmission fluid. oil changes. rear end gear oil and lawn equipment. What do you guys think?

I used the search function and a few people had the liquivac but more had the mityvac so there werent many reviews. I dont really want to buy a cheep tool only to be disappointed but I sure like the price more than the mityvac.

Second question is specific the the hyndai guys. Ok so when I did my pan drop with filter change I added 4.5 quars of oil and that brought me back up to the proper level. this time with just the pan drained I added 4 quarts and its high. way high! like cold at idol its up at the top of the hot marks.

so because i dont have a fluid extractor I was thinking I would jack the car up and pour off about 1/2-1 quart of fluid and check again till its correct and top off slowly if its low.

What is the normal ammount of fluid added to a 99 elantra during just a pan and tq drain? is a fluid extractor a usefull tool. sure looks like it from what ive read but I have no experience.

Thanks
Sean Scott

 

[HTSS_TR]

I had Liquivac Topside for a bout a year, it worked a couple times then it didn't seal well, a lot of air leak and stopped working. I then bought Mityvac 7201 and it had been working for more than 7 years without any problem. Mityvac 7201 is almost double the price of Liquivac, but I would not buy Liquivac even for $10.

You may pay a little more up front but it works well for many years or you pay a little less and a year later throw it in the trash. It's your choice.

 

[tomcat27]

I use my fluid extractor a few times a year: transmission fluid changes, recently for a PS fluid change, and to change the oil in the boat. One of my friends borrows it periodically. so yes, for me, its usefull.

 

[salv]

I work in service at a Hyundai dealership, and we flush and fill all our transmissions with a machine. The 99 elantra transmission should take in the ballpark of 7 quarts to fill after complete flush. Make sure only to use sp-III or Diamond sp-III compatible fluid.

 

[DARKSCOPE001]

thanks. the cheapness and lack of accessories did kind of frighten me about the liquivac. So I am more leaning towards the mityvac. I just liked the liquivac because i can get it localy for the same price as Amazon. I suppose the extra money for the 7201 isnt bad but what about the 7400? http://www.amazon.com/Mityvac-7400-Liter...5737&sr=1-2 How useful is the dispensing function on the 7201? is the 7201 more powerful? just curious. sure looks like a useful tool for various jobs around the garage. definitely think this is worth a look or two. possibly a way to spend some tax money.

Thanks
Sean Scott

 

[dwendt44]

The extra fluid could be removed by disconnecting one of the cooler lines and running engine for a second.
Still messy.

 

[DARKSCOPE001]

yea thanks guys. I have been filling up with valvoline high mileage. The car has never had a transmission flush for the first 110000 or so miles of its life so im changing it on a pretty short intervle like. say every 1000-3000 miles to try and get as much of the old stuff out as I can. This is just a pan drain and tq drain not a complete system flush so this will not be complete system capacity (which I believe to be around 8.4quarts) im simply replenishing what fluid I get out of the pan and tq.

I think where I ran into problems was when I dropped the pan I got more fluid than just draining the pan (drain bolt is on the drivers side of the oil pan and mounted up a little bit not exactly on the bottom and there is a low spot compared to the drain bolt) could possibly hold a quart or more of extra fluid.)

What do you guys think of this plan? taking an old oil bottle with a funnel stuck in the top. and placing it under the drain bolt for the pan. draining off about half a quart or so. (eyeballing how much is going into the bottle) having the bolt close at hand to close her hack up. put the bolt back in. lower the car and let it idol for a min or so and check again. untill its in the proper position.


Thanks
Sean Scott

 

[demarpaint]

The Miti Vac is well worth the investment. When doing a pan drop use the Miti Vac and get as much fluid out as possible before dropping the pan. Another tip is get a very small Kiddie Pool and put that under the transmission before dropping the pan. It will keep the floor a lot cleaner.

 

[DARKSCOPE001]

thats for the tip demarpaint. I think i would not have made such a big mess had I jacked the car instead of putting it on ramps. I put it up on ramps because I always feel safer under a car supported by ramps instead of jack stands (im weird) only problem was that the drain bolt for the trans pan was barely infront of the left wheel. So i ha just enough room to get the drain pan under it.

But had the oil came shooting out in a stream i would have been sol. lucky for me it just kinda gave me the pouring liquid out of a bottle effect. Probably because I didnt remove the dipstick and there was a vacuum inside the transmission case.

Thanks
Sean Scott