More take off than landings?

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Just wondering around here, who has said bye-bye to the pilot, and jumped out of a plane with a parachute? If so, perhaps discuss why you were so dumb as to trust and piece of fabric and cords over a trusty pilot and their machine.

276 jumps<=1500ft AGL, C-5, C-17s, C-130s, Uh-60, CH-47

A shade over 100 a bunch higher.......

Stories are welcome aswell.
 
You having over 376 static line jumps put you in the one percent of all airborne jump category. That is an incredibly high number. I don't know many who have done over 150 static lines jumps, and these guys with over 150 static line jumps spent decades on jump status at Ft Bragg.

I have seven concurrent years of being on jump status. My last job at Ft Bragg was the Division Air Officer. That was over 20 years ago.

My favorite story is not about me reference your question. My favorite story is a guy I worked with from Ohio. The first time he was ever on an airplane, he took off with the plane, but didn't land with the plane. He jumped out of the plane, on his first every flight. Very unique.

Very rare you jumped out of C5. USAF/ USA determined to much safety risk and all but banned C5s from static line airborne jumps.
 
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276 jumps<=1500ft AGL, C-5, C-17s, C-130s, Uh-60, CH-47

A shade over 100 a bunch higher.......
It's unique you jumped out of Blackhawks, but no Huey jumps? Since you jumped out of C5s, Hueys were still in service at the same time for static line airborne operations. No Twin Otters or Casa 212 jumps? I would think at 376+ jumps, those aircraft would have been on your log record. Not questioning, but you are a very rare person to have that number of jumps and not utilize the aircraft that are more available for people chasing jumps.
 
It unique you jumped out of Blackhawks, but no Huey jumps? Since you jumped out of C5s, Hueys were still in service at the same time for static line airborne operations. No Twin Otters or Casa 212 jumps? I would think at 376+ jumps, those aircraft would have been on your log record. Not questioning, but you are a very rare person to have that number of jumps and not utilize the aircraft that are more available for people chasing jumps.
276 static, others were HALO/HAHO or civilian...back when 150,200,250? was the number for jumpmaster school, ( i think this was not correct, they were just padding the numbers for the school....maybe to many applicants or they just did not want to send me?.)....fun jumps on Sicily, sometimes 20 in one day. Pre 9/11 we did at least two per month. By in large, I was not in a regular line unit. We would show up Saturdays in bdus and paint, they would land on Sicily, we would rig up, board, jump, stow, rig, and do it all over again.....no gear......if i had gear, I am sure I would have got hurt.

Rigger thing also. Chutes can't be stored for long until they have to be used, and riggers could only work so much per day.....win win. when you have 25000 chutes....you get the idea.

C5 one jump.....not sure what the deal was with that.....not static....no huey......yes, C-212 of course and a few Foreign planes.....just did not feel the need to list all in every particular in the first post.

Blackhawk/Chinook jumps were the norm....majority of jumps from Helo....most fun....not unique really....very common

Had two failed openings...one night one day .. , one entanglement in daylight....and one towed....day.....c130....not fun....I thought very closely at my existence on that day.
 
You having over 376 static line jumps put you in the one percent of all airborne jump category. That is an incredibly high number. I don't know many who have done over 150 static lines jumps, and these guys with over 150 static line jumps spent decades on jump status at Ft Bragg.

I have seven concurrent years of being on jump status. My last job at Ft Bragg was the Division Air Officer. That was over 20 years ago.

My favorite story is not about me reference your question. My favorite story is a guy I worked with from Ohio. The first time he was ever on an airplane, he took off with the plane, but didn't land with the plane. He jumped out of the plane, on his first every flight. Very unique.

Very rare you jumped out of C5. USAF/ USA determined to much safety risk and all but banned C5s from static line airborne jumps.
While I was only a 5 jump chump, my first airplane ride was in a C141 and I landed in Fryar Drop Zone in Alabama.

I had taken a Blackhawk flight before that, but never an airplane flight.
 
While I was only a 5 jump chump, my first airplane ride was in a C141 and I landed in Fryar Drop Zone in Alabama.

I had taken a Blackhawk flight before that, but never an airplane flight.
C141 were awesome, the smell of fuel inside the body of a C141 for a paratrooper while waiting for the green light to come one is something one always remember.

JC--- go beat your boots......

Thanks for sharing you also didn't land in the first fixed wing high performance aircraft you took off in---- super cool..... I suspect less than .00000001 percent of the world's population can claim that......
 
I fell in love with the idea of parachuting from a TV series called Ripcord back when I was 13 and wrote to parachute clubs across the US requesting any pamphlets or other information they could offer. I had to wait until I was 16 to jump, and made four static line jumps back in 1966 at a NJ club as soon as I turned 16. It was a real kick, but I didn't have the money to continue.

As for safety, you are much safer jumping all day than you are driving to the club. Statistics at that time some 60 years ago said one death per million jumps, and most of those were from drowning (jumping near water without a flotation device) or jumping without a reserve chute. Dumb! With modern chutes I imagine the safety is even better today. In any case, if both chutes don't open you get your money back!
 
If it doesn't have stairs that go all the way to the tarmac or flight deck then I consider that a "jump". The fact that I didn't fall far enough to gain sufficient velocity to need a parachute is gaslighting me.
 
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You having over 376 static line jumps put you in the one percent of all airborne jump category. That is an incredibly high number. I don't know many who have done over 150 static lines jumps, and these guys with over 150 static line jumps spent decades on jump status at Ft Bragg.

I have seven concurrent years of being on jump status. My last job at Ft Bragg was the Division Air Officer. That was over 20 years ago.

My favorite story is not about me reference your question. My favorite story is a guy I worked with from Ohio. The first time he was ever on an airplane, he took off with the plane, but didn't land with the plane. He jumped out of the plane, on his first every flight. Very unique.

Very rare you jumped out of C5. USAF/ USA determined to much safety risk and all but banned C5s from static line airborne jumps.
The pilot that flew my one and only skydiving flight did his first jump ever out of the plane he was flying! A few months after my wife and I jumped he had mechanical trouble and had to ditch the plane. Everyone was safe and the plane crashed in a farm field.
 
The pilot that flew my one and only skydiving flight did his first jump ever out of the plane he was flying! A few months after my wife and I jumped he had mechanical trouble and had to ditch the plane. Everyone was safe and the plane crashed in a farm field.
Now that is absolutely nuts.
 
I fell in love with the idea of parachuting from a TV series called Ripcord back when I was 13 and wrote to parachute clubs across the US requesting any pamphlets or other information they could offer. I had to wait until I was 16 to jump, and made four static line jumps back in 1966 at a NJ club as soon as I turned 16. It was a real kick, but I didn't have the money to continue.

As for safety, you are much safer jumping all day than you are driving to the club. Statistics at that time some 60 years ago said one death per million jumps, and most of those were from drowning (jumping near water without a flotation device) or jumping without a reserve chute. Dumb! With modern chutes I imagine the safety is even better today. In any case, if both chutes don't open you get your money back!
Yes and no. Depends how one defines safer. People also drive every day and night. If a paratrooper jumped as often as he drove, being a paratrooper without question would provide significantly more casualties. Most paratroopers jump six or less times per year. Jumping is a very time-consuming activity. One does hours of pre jump training prior to the jump and often does intense training (actions on the objective) after landing on the ground. These actions on the objective can take hours, and often in the dark.

It depends what activity is going on as part of the jump. Many of the jumps going out of Ft Bragg are Mass Tac. A mass tactical (Mass Tac) jump in the context of airborne operations refers to a large-scale parachute jump where hundreds of paratroopers descend on a single target area, through six +/- aircraft. These jumps are almost always at night, and full combat load jumps. Tons of equipment is directly connected to the body of the paratrooper, to include full length assault weapons (not counting collapsible but stocks) even stinger missiles tied to some of their bodies. Every Mass Tac jump is expected and likely to have casualties (not fatalities). These jumps are an intense rush of paratroopers exiting both doors of the aircraft at the same time.

It is not uncommon for jumpers to collide immediately after exiting the aircraft, getting tangled up in another jumper's chute, being directly above another parachuter this stealing the air of one of the paratroopers, and the most dangerous event on a military static line jump is landing. A jumper must not know (not anticipate the ground) when he hits the ground and spread the shock of hitting the ground through five parts of his body (called a parachute landing fall). If a paratrooper anticipates the ground, a PLF can't be properly performed often resulting in significant injuries. When a paratrooper exits an aircraft, forward throw/ lateral drift is a calculated event dropping hundreds of paratroopers into a space exactly where they are supposed to land.

If a paratrooper does not drop from the airplane at a certain rate, the pinpointed landing can't be calculated, so paratroopers hit the ground relatively fast. When I mention forward throw, when one exits a high performance (military fixed wing) aircraft, the paratrooper body moves forward from momentum, then begins to drop down. Lateral drift is the calculation of wind speeds to know exactly where the paratrooper is supposed to land. The pilots flight plan/ route is based on the location of the drop zone, amount of paratroopers exiting the aircraft, speed the aircraft will be flying while the paratroopers exit the aircraft, and outside air speed. As wind speed changes, so does the calculations to make things work as planned.

I was the tactical air planner for the air insertion of 82nd ABN airborne insertion into Saddam Hussien International Airport, scheduled to take place in MAR 2023. I choreographed the exact position where every single jumper would land. The jump IIRC was 500 feet, instead of the typical 1200- 1500 +/- feet. At 500 feet, there is no time to use a reserve parachute, the main parachute has to open. The reduced AGL reduction reduces time in the air, and also allows a more pinpointed drop, as lateral drift is reduced. Unlike a recreational jump into a field, a jump into a "improved" airport involved landing on runways, buildings, antennas, and being shot at.
 
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I have seven jumps, four static line (3000 and 5000 ft) and three freefalls, two from 12,500 and one from 13,200. Made my first jump on my 16th birthday.

It was a bit expensive for a high school kid, which prevented me from getting enough jumps quickly enough to move off student status and buying my own equipment and paying $1 per 1K feet for the plane ride. Two of my friends, who also jumped, were one and done types and not having anyone to continue jumping with, pretty much ended the hobby pretty quick. My sister who was a few years older than me had upwards of 800 jumps and I could have joined into her group of jumper friends but they were all older and I didnt really feel like I fit in with them.

I trusted the equipment, as well as the more often than not pilot (my sister's then-boyfriend, who went on to fly F-15's in the Air Force and now flies 767s for United) though the planes were ragged out 172's which the now A&P mechanic me would probably shudder if I were to see them now. As much as I liked the jumping, I found myself wondering around the airport looking at the various planes with more interest than the jumping activity.

There's been some talk amongst my younger nieces and nephews that have been talking about making a jump and dragging me with them, so it looks like I might be jumping yet again soon. I hope...
 
If a paratrooper does not drop from the airplane at a certain rate, the pinpointed landing can't be calculated, so paratroopers hit the ground relatively fast. When I mention forward throw, when one exits a high performance (military fixed wing) aircraft, the paratrooper body moves forward from momentum, then begins to drop down. Lateral drift is the calculation of wind speeds to know exactly where the paratrooper is supposed to land. The pilots flight plan/ route is based on the location of the drop zone, amount of paratroopers exiting the aircraft, speed the aircraft will be flying while the paratroopers exit the aircraft, and outside air speed. As wind speed changes, so does the calculations to make things work as planned.

Or public events where demonstration teams miss their target. Haven't heard of maybe crashing into the side of a stadium, but there have been collisions with spectators.



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Strike that about crashing into a stadium building.



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The pilots flight plan/ route is based on the location of the drop zone, amount of paratroopers exiting the aircraft, speed the aircraft will be flying while the paratroopers exit the aircraft, and outside air speed. As wind speed changes, so does the calculations to make things work as planned.
This is correct, preferably with data on the ground at the DZ. This was one of our responsibilities. This is very important at night, especially when equipment \ cargo is involved.
In truth, feet, head, and a word that starts with A and ends with S....unless you land in the water and die.
Unlike a recreational jump into a field, a jump into a "improved" airport involved landing on runways, buildings, antennas, and being shot at.
This is the most dangerous mission imaginable. The 82nd trains for this very mission year after year. I can see no other mission that comes close to this level of danger and importance in a conventional strike force........ humanly. Mostly because the wanted outcome is to gain a usable airfield.......thus, air and artillery are typically out of the question........at least for a period of time.
 
Technically you did make as many landings as your did take offs lol.

That's awesome you were allowed to jump so many times. Only recon and marsoc are allowed to go to jump school in the MC. You guys get all the cool stuff and get to do so the cool stuff. I know many that have lat moved over to the army to get to do stuff like you.
 
No jumps for me but saw something a bit terrifying involving jumpers. At a July 4 small town celebration 3 or 4 people jumped out of a perfectly good aircraft and were supposed to land in a ball field. One of the chutes didn't open, did that streamer thing. People thought it was part of the show, I was pretty sure it wasn't. The jumper cut that one loose and dropped away to the oohs and ahhs of the crowd. He pulled the reserve that was a round chute and drifted away from the landing zone and into town. The other jumpers hit the landing zone shed their gear and took off running in the direction he went down and found him in a tree unhurt. I was amazed people didn't know what they were watching.
 
One jump for me - static line out of a Cessna 172 from 3000', May 4, 1986. Round chute, and no tandem jumps back then.

C$180 for the training and 1st jump - subsequent jumps would have been C$30. I wish I had done enough to go freefall.

I've floated the idea of doing another jump, but Mrs #35 is not in favour.
 
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