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No surprise, NYC is having problems with e-bikes going up in flames too taking out buildings, and garbage trucks. I know it's not the lithium battery technology is a lousy technology, it's the owner's fault. In any event people are losing their lives, and it's making the news again. Flame suit on......

The headline:

FDNY once again sounds alarm on lithium-ion battery fires in NYC​

I didn’t think much about it, but li-ion scooters in garbage trucks, on compression cycle… it’s the makings of a problem for sure. Crush safety test usually isn’t pretty.
 
I didn’t think much about it, but li-ion scooters in garbage trucks, on compression cycle… it’s the makings of a problem for sure. Crush safety test usually isn’t pretty.
Those batteries can be more of a problem than people think. My nephew is a NYC Fireman and has put out his fair share of EV scooter fires, one of which resulted in a fatality. You're right those batteries should not be boxed and tossed into the garbage, and maybe a bigger bolder warning should be on the batteries of how to dispose of them. Having said that when you deal with some people cautions, warnings, etc. mean nothing.
 
I’m very careful recycling li-ion batteries.

That said, none of the Makita batteries that I have bought (and it’s 28 batteries) have yet to fail. Despite being on the job for over a decade, they’re running strong.

So, Li-Ion can be done correctly.
 
With the expensive gasoline and cheap electricity here, an EV as a 2nd car would be a good fit for me.

However, I think I would always park outside, use Level 1 (120 VAC) charging only, and never charge beyond 80%.
The owner of one of these will need at least 20 acres and cement block building to store it in. 🤣
 
Since we're piling on, what about laptop batteries? I've had many issues with those swelling over the years, working in IT.
 
I’m very careful recycling li-ion batteries.

That said, none of the Makita batteries that I have bought (and it’s 28 batteries) have yet to fail. Despite being on the job for over a decade, they’re running strong.

So, Li-Ion can be done correctly.
With all the concern about Li-ion batteries and fires we've decided to track down and recycle old ones no longer in use. There were a surprising number - 2 on old lap tops, 2 in old cell phones, 1 in a portable GPS, 1 in an iPod, and several in solar powered pathway lights.

Our place is safer already.
 
Since we're piling on, what about laptop batteries? I've had many issues with those swelling over the years, working in IT.
Laptop and tablet batteries are the worst. I've seen both that are 10x the regular size when swelled up. Scary to see.

There were some specialty tablets we were using for TeleHealth equipment, at one point I went to look at them for some reason and 4 out of the 6 had swelled batteries. 1 was so bad that it had popped the entire battery compartment cover off. Had to take them off the floor due to the danger they posed to the users. Then, of course, management had to get involved because they needed their equipment to see patients.

Problem is, the batteries were on back order with no ETA. Most likely they stopped making them and we would never be able to get them even if we did order them. So I had to remove the batteries and give them back to the staff to use like that. These were not designed to be stationary, they were mobile carts and needed battery power to work properly. Cue having to explain why the carts were they way they were to the staff that used them every time I was in the area for something. Finally we got rid of them, although they are still in storage on site. Really need to take them out and give them a proper shotgun send off. Those things were some of the worst equipment I've ever seen used in a hospital setting.
 
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