Mopar Oil Filters from the Mopar store

[kschachn]

Cost and convenience, and some are worried it might be a warranty issue. I don't have that problem since I stopped buying new cars long ago. Cost and convenience means I purchase most of my oil and filters from Walmart, so what is available there heavily influences what I buy.

Me too. That’s where I get oils with demanding manufacturer approvals such as VW 504 00. Same price as other synthetic oils and Walmart is the lowest.

I did buy filters there in the past but obviously that’s changed. I get them at O’Reilly these days.

I have no concerns about warranty. Nowhere in my owners manual does it say I’m restricted to using what they recommend to preserve my warranty. But like you, everything’s out of warranty now. I drive things to the very end so superior protection and longevity is important to me.

 

[User_19876]

Cost and convenience, and some are worried it might be a warranty issue. I don't have that problem since I stopped buying new cars long ago. Cost and convenience means I purchase most of my oil and filters from Walmart, so what is available there heavily influences what I buy.

OP could get a M1 113a at Walmart that would be dramatically superior to the 339.

But he could get the same filter cheaper at Rural King.

 

[GW.]

Or you can buy a car where the screen doesn’t delaminate and find better uses of your time. You are illustrating what is know as a fool’s errand. Moreover, are you really trying to help people, or bully people into your way of thinking?

Please explain how to tell the future on problems that don’t happen until after 8+ years of purchase? Of course now it’s a known problem but wasn’t when I bought it new.

In the meantime I’ll continue cutting filters and providing reliable information for those that don’t guess on quality.

 

[ZeeOSix]

I would guess also that 99% of filter problems seen by dealers have to do with customer abuse running the filter too long or never changing it.

Pretty much every oil filter found with torn media on this board was ran well within the OEM's recommendation. Lots of oil filters have quality issues that are there right from the factory, or happen with not many miles of use on them.

 

[ZeeOSix]

But on Toyota, which has the best reputation for reliability in the industry, you really think the filter is a risk

If you keep up on the automotive industry, Toyota has had its fair share of issues with various vehicles. Also, there have been Toyota OEM filters here not long ago that have cracked end caps which allow dirty oil to bypass the filter media. Yes, even Toyota oil filters can have quality issues.

People don't guy a vehicle because of a few specific parts are bullet proof - like an oil filter, they buy a vehicle for other many more broad reasons. Once they get it they may have to experience some unforeseen issues, which will of course be fixed under warranty or by a recall. Some people will dump the vehicle and buy something else if it turns out to be a major problem child ... I've been down that road before.

 

[ZeeOSix]

But why not use a better oil and filter? What’s the argument against that?

That's the puzzling part ... a better oil filter really isn't a bank buster move, lol. Why not complete the trifecta of engine protection.

 

[MarvinTheAndroid]

Agreed, The closest Rural King to me occasionally has the Mobil 212A and 114A on sale for $7.99, which beats all of the others around me by a fair margin. Ace Hardware sometimes has a $10 off $20 coupon, which can bring the Mobils down to about $10.99 apiece.

OP could get a M1 113a at Walmart that would be dramatically superior to the 339.

But he could get the same filter cheaper at Rural King.

 

[AuthorEditor]

Lots of oil filters have quality issues that are there right from the factory, or happen with not many miles of use on them.

Agreed, but the point is most people, the dealer, and your engine will never notice unless someone cuts it open. You could run with an empty can on there and nobody would notice unless you cut it open. Not saying it's ideal, but aside from gross negligence most engines will outlive the rest of the car as long as you do regular oil changes with some sort of filter.

 

[kschachn]

That's the puzzling part ... a better oil filter really isn't a bank buster move, lol. Why not complete the trifecta of engine protection.

There is a lot that’s puzzling here.

 

[kschachn]

Agreed, but the point is most people, the dealer, and your engine will never notice unless someone cuts it open. You could run with an empty can on there and nobody would notice unless you cut it open. Not saying it's ideal, but aside from gross negligence most engines will outlive the rest of the car as long as you do regular oil changes with some sort of filter.

Well you’re the market for those filters then.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Agreed, but the point is most people, the dealer, and your engine will never notice unless someone cuts it open. You could run with an empty can on there and nobody would notice unless you cut it open. Not saying it's ideal, but aside from gross negligence most engines will outlive the rest of the car as long as you do regular oil changes with some sort of filter.

If the unaware people didn't know what was going on inside the filter, but were then told and shown I'd think most with any mechanical sense at all wouldn't think it's a good thing. Ignorance is bliss in the automotive maintenance world - as long as it's still "running good" all is cool. If it blows-up, then guess something went wrong.

And the only time a dealership might cut open an oil filter is if the engine had some mechanical problem associated with the oiling system, then they would look to see if the filter was the cause. Otherwise the filter just gets chucked or recycled. People that try to justify inefficient filters and filters that have quality issues and show a track record of problems can just keep using them ... not my machine, lol.