Mobil1 ESPx2 0W-20 now at Walmart / $28

[dubber09]

Is it a VW 508 (2018) cert? VW 508 2021 cert lists HTHS at >3.5 while 2018 is > 2.6? Other certs' HTHS is between 2.6-2.9.

 

[Jimmy_Russells]

VW 508 2021 cert lists HTHS at >3.5

I'm sure that is not correct

 

[edyvw]

Is it a VW 508 (2018) cert? VW 508 2021 cert lists HTHS at >3.5 while 2018 is > 2.6? Other certs' HTHS is between 2.6-2.9.

Typo.

 

[wemay]

Is it a VW 508 (2018) cert? VW 508 2021 cert lists HTHS at >3.5 while 2018 is > 2.6? Other certs' HTHS is between 2.6-2.9.

You're looking at 2021 VW508.88 - 3.5 HTHS
This oil (in this thread) is VW 508.00 - 2.6 HTHS

Different approvals.


https://online.lubrizol.com/relperf...*MTcxODgxMTE5MS4xLjAuMTcxODgxMTE5MS42MC4wLjA.

https://db.tecdoc-module.bg/files/2016/pdf/04367032402255.pdf

 

[Sandstorm]

Not to veer way off topic; but why is the M1 0w30ESP not SP rated? Thank You

It is SP rated Adam.

 

[dubber09]

Thank you guys! Too many 8s in there... LOL

 

[I<3oil]

NA

 

[Sandstorm]

0W-30 is not.



API SL

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/for-personal-vehicles/our-products/products/mobil-1-esp-0w-30

This product meets or exceeds the requirements of:

ACEA C3

API SL

API SN Engine Test Requirements

API SN PLUS ENGINE TEST REQUIREMENTS

API SP ENGINE TEST REQUIREMENTS

 

[I<3oil]

This product meets or exceeds the requirements of:

ACEA C3

API SL

API SN Engine Test Requirements

API SN PLUS ENGINE TEST REQUIREMENTS

API SP ENGINE TEST REQUIREMENTS

Touche. Apparently the page hadn’t finished loading whilst I was outside changing my engine air filter. xD

 

[Sandstorm]

Touche. Apparently the page hadn’t finished loading whilst I was outside changing my engine air filter. xD

It's been SP rated for more than a year I believe

 

[kschachn]

But "SP rated" isn't the same as having an API license, for example the oil does not show up on the API EOLCS Directory unless I'm missing it somehow.

We did have a discussion about what "engine test requirements" means and IIRC it means that out of the two sets of requirements (bench and engine) it was not shown to comply with the bench requirements. What parts and why are not known. It could be anything from some physical property or some chemical aspect. Regardless it's not something I care about since an API license is not why I buy the oil.

 

[I<3oil]

But "SP rated" isn't the same as having an API license, for example the oil does not show up on the API EOLCS Directory unless I'm missing it somehow.

We did have a discussion about what "engine test requirements" means and IIRC it means that out of the two sets of requirements (bench and engine) it was not shown to comply with the bench requirements. What parts and why are not known. It could be anything from some physical property or some chemical aspect. Regardless it's not something I care about since an API license is not why I buy the oil.

Correct

 

[Sandstorm]

But "SP rated" isn't the same as having an API license, for example the oil does not show up on the API EOLCS Directory unless I'm missing it somehow.

We did have a discussion about what "engine test requirements" means and IIRC it means that out of the two sets of requirements (bench and engine) it was not shown to comply with the bench requirements. What parts and why are not known. It could be anything from some physical property or some chemical aspect. Regardless it's not something I care about since an API license is not why I buy the oil.

Indeed, it's one of the best oils money can buy. Where I see 229.52 approval I could care less for an API licence as well.

 

[Brons2]

[back on topic] Saw this M1 0w20 Dexos-D rated at my Walmart the other day also. Picked up the bottle to feel it. Wanted to take off the top and smell it, but I think WallyWorld might not appreciate me breaking the seal.

 

[Sandstorm]

[back on topic] Saw this M1 0w20 Dexos-D rated at my Walmart the other day also. Picked up the bottle to feel it. Wanted to take off the top and smell it, but I think WallyWorld might not appreciate me breaking the seal.

Did you also see it?

 

[edhackett]

But "SP rated" isn't the same as having an API license, for example the oil does not show up on the API EOLCS Directory unless I'm missing it somehow.

We did have a discussion about what "engine test requirements" means and IIRC it means that out of the two sets of requirements (bench and engine) it was not shown to comply with the bench requirements. What parts and why are not known. It could be anything from some physical property or some chemical aspect. Regardless it's not something I care about since an API license is not why I buy the oil.

A look at the PDS shows the oil to be formulated with 880 ppm phosphorus. This is above the 800 ppm limit set by the API for SP oils of that weight. Another case of an oil being too good for the API.

Ed

 

[kschachn]

A look at the PDS shows the oil to be formulated with 880 ppm phosphorus. This is above the 800 ppm limit set by the API for SP oils of that weight. Another case of an oil being too good for the API.

Ed

Thanks that explains it.

 

[53' Stude]

It is SP rated Adam.

Thank You friend

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Wanted to take off the top and smell it, but I think WallyWorld might not appreciate me breaking the seal.

Future BITOG Members Commandment
#11 - Never break open jug seals to indicate smell inside WM stores.

You can only do it at your nearest Wally World with Great Value Supertech Milk, excluding Chocolate.

 

[53' Stude]

Future BITOG Members Commandment
#11 - Never break open jug seals to indicate smell inside WM stores.

You can only do it at your nearest Wally World with Great Value Supertech Milk, excluding Chocolate.

That’s another lie. There is no BITOG COMMANDMENTS!