Hi,
Originally Posted By: buster
I'm not really impressed with the critical comments made so far.
First, of course it's marketing. What else would it be? Would you rather have a 4-ball wear scar or watch a Castrol video blowing up an engine?
Second, Mobil does field and lab testing. They have rooms that can get very cold to test cold weather pump-ability and they run these cars on simulated tracks that can vary the conditions.
I'm not trying to hype up Mobil 1 or say it's the best, but I think the overall testing they did was good.
Last, if it's not severe, then run your oil 25,000 miles 2qts low and get back to me.
Especially TGMO. And do a tear down. Has to be 2qts low too. Then compare results to M1 EP 0w20 at 210,000 miles.
Fact: the guy doing engine tear downs for 43 years said it was among the most severe testing he has ever seen. Did Mobil pay him to say that? Doubt it.
buster - You like I are very aware of the field testing that takes place - in my case at the front end as I have stated on here a number of times. Typically this encompasses seeding via Fleet use, race events and intense tests over vast distances, typically without " controls" that may slew results. Typically they WANT to learn from this type of testing!
This quote is relevant and from:
OATS Bulletin, Global Edition, Issue 164 - September 2014
"Evidence continues to grow that the methodology being used by OEMs to establish urban cycle fuel consumption and emission figures for new vehicles are substantially out of date. While the manufacturers are prepared to admit the flaws in the existing tests, which they conduct themselves under laboratory conditions, they are also robust in challenging the EC to ensure the introduction of proposed road-based tests are equally realistic. More importantly, as vehicle components are designed to meet the challenges of rising global fuel prices, such as in the all-wheel-drive( AWD) passenger car market, the lubricants industry needs open standards that can permit not quasi parts but real interchange ability of products."
Recently I also quoted an OATS report highlighting that Daimler AG had embarked on specific tests two years ago that will overwhelm some of the existing Lab tests from API and ACEA
Sometimes technical developments have left the like of the API behind - this is never a good thing. China is finding this out at present as their market is being flooded by sub-standard lubricants that have a disastrous effect on the end users - with engine and other component failures costing a fortune!
