Dumb question time... Is this Lake Speed Nascar drivers son ?
Lake Speed only won 1 race in his Nascar career at Darlington in 1988. He had a legit good car that day and led about half the laps if not 2/3 of them. Driving that Wynn's car which actually had a pretty cool paint scheme on it. He did finish 2nd to Bill Elliot at the 1985 Daytona 500 and finished 10th in the points in 1985 and had a good year that year.
Definitely Lake Speed be was a good driver and deserved to be out there racing.
Anyone here have a UOA performed by SPEEDiagnostix ? I wonder if L.S Jr's comments - if provided - would be better than what we see from B_stone?
I know, it's just hard to find and at least here in Spain, rather expensive ( read : ridiculously expensive ) , the only place in my city that sells it has it for the bargain price of 19.99€ per litre!They do the 4T version though! May try it in our Mini next time round.
It was XoM best M1 product prior to 2007 - then they changed the formulation. I don't know anything about the current formulation.I know, it's just hard to find and at least here in Spain, rather expensive ( read : ridiculously expensive ) , the only place in my city that sells it has it for the bargain price of 19.99€ per litre!
It was back around 2010 when Mobil changed ALL of their formulations. It was at this time I stopped using Mobll1 after about 35 years of using their product.It was XoM best M1 product prior to 2007 - then they changed the formulation. I don't know anything about the current formulation.
I think Mobil's been using a similar formulation since 2012 with just tweaks here and there. Just a guess based on VOA's over the years and MSDS.So did the formulation change when they recently added the API SP certification or was the old formula directly compatible?
Mobil's approach to formulating their racing oils is interesting to me. They don't seem overly concerned about HT/HS as some of the others. If you look at other racing oils like Amsoil Dominator (they use the Kurt Orbahn test for an example), Redline etc., they're going for maximum shear stability. Mobil on the other hand has a few "racing" oils that will clearly not stay in grade (0w40/15w50/0w50/0w30). With that said I'm sure they are very good just based on who is using them and the fact that XOM knows how to formulate a top notch oil. They're just using more VII than I would have expected.
That I understand but my point was that their racing oils, designed and used by racing teams, come in 0w30 and 0w/40/50 grades. They're not the most shear stable grades for racing applications. Maybe that is due to them being recommended for both street and racing environment rather than just racing.I think you’re giving Mobil too much credit.
They’re not formulating Mobil 1 for niche racing applications, or extreme duty applications.
This additive change (and thus SP spec) realistically came from one of the general managers of lubricants, to stream line the number of additive packages down.
Their concern for HTHS, is also minimal because they’re designing oils for the basics, again, not really the extreme. I don’t know what car takes 15w50 from a factory fill perspective - not really a car guy - but they probably formulated and price it, accordingly to that oem’s demand.
I say this as someone that sits on a major oil company’s technical products committee, as an outsider/consultant.
What HPL does, or any ILMA striving to produce a higher quality product, is vastly different than the formulation choices from a major oil company. ILMA’s aren’t restricted by inline blending, what truck load of additives they’re solublizing today, who’s base oil they have contracts with (as much), etc.
The supply chain managers at a major are going to have more of a say in the formulation, over the supply chain manager in an ILMA.
That’s not to say Mobil won’t batch make some very boutique oils for niche racing applications. But mass produced, like their 15w50, won’t be as robust as a company that is dedicated to making robust fluids for that same application. Or, someone calling up and ILMA and having oil blended to their specs.
Thanks bb you too You make a great point.Buster remember though in Nascar they run like 20+ quarts of oil in their oil system... So it has plenty of time to cool within the lines away from the motor and in the oil tank too. That and the oil is on the motor for quite short period of time which helps also. And I bet if they run a 0w40 or even 0w30 they have that in and if it were to shear down one grade.
I'd bet those other cars racing like IRL and GT etc etc may have a similar set-up running in them too.
I hope you and your family are doing good man.
Always good to see you on here.