Mobil 1 0w40 - 18 month OCI?

[Falcon_LS]

I switched to Mobil 1 0W-40 in my '01 Camry, with the 5S-FE 2.2L L4 and 50,000 km ((31,250 miles) on the clock, when it was purchased in late February this year. I used a WIX 51394 when I changed the oil and replaced it with a Thai Denso filter in September, when the oil and filter had 7,472 km (4,670 miles) on it.

Over the course of 8 years, this vehicle only had 31,250 miles put on it and I only put 11,500 km (7,188 miles) on it since the oil change. My preferred OCI is 16,000 km (10,000 miles) and it takes me about a year and a half to hit that mileage with this vehicle, which is not a daily driver. Would there be any harm in 10,000 mile/18 month OCIs with Mobil 1 0W-40?

Thanks in advance!

 

[d00df00d]

How big is the sump?

 

[Falcon_LS]

Sorry, slump size is 4 quarts with the filter.

 

[d00df00d]

Well, 10k miles and 18 months would be a stretch, but I'd imagine you could do it.

 

[tig1]

Even if this is a sluddger the M1 should be fine in that engine. My daughter had a 99 Lexus 3.0 which was a sluddger but I changed her oil with Mobil 1 10w30 and after she sold it with 85,000 miles there was no visable sign of sludge.

 

[98dakarM3]

Hasn't 0-40 been found to sheer pretty badly after that many miles?

I don't have any data, but I vaguely remember that.

 

[Ibrahim]

you are using 0W-40 in Kuwait, its a desert country, you should not be using anything less than 10W-40 or 5W-40...and how in the earth are you able to go that long without changing oil?

we use to change every 2000KM or 2 months....also use to change air filter every time we changed oil....I was born and raised in Saudi Arabia!

Temperature out in the country side use to exceed 50 degree Celsius!

 

[Jim Allen]

My opinion is that 18 months isn't a problem, but 10K miles could be with an engine that has a small sump. To my mind, it would depend on the type of driving. If it was done in long(ish) stretches, where the oil had plenty of time at full temp, then yeah. If it was short(ish) hops, no. The sitting between driving isn't too hard on oil in a storage area with a relatively stable temperature (no frequent and rapid changes of temperature).

 

[d00df00d]

It's been done.

My brother is going to come close 10,000 miles on a thinner oil with fewer long-drain certifications than Mobil 1 0w-40, in an engine with an 8,600 RPM redline and about the same sump size.

 

[Doug Hillary]

Hi,
Falcon_LS - You can check the Mobil 1 0W-40 used oil analysis from my Benz in the used oil analysis Forum. This has a similar sump size to you and the lubricant was suitable for continued use. The average OCI for Benzes in the country is around 17kkms and around 18mths-2yrs

It is a two year OCI lubricant for many Euro engines

 

[priler]

i was using this very same oil in the MB in my sig for 1yr/10,000 OCI. i found nothing to complain about.however,this MB has 8 qrt sump and a great filter. i believe i could have gone another 5000mi with no problems but i change the oils in many different cars all at once out of convenience.

you have 1/2 the sump so you can use this as a guide.i would say your pushing the limit with 18mths/10,000mi but you should have no problems unless your using the car in a particular way all the time.in any case,personally,i wouldn't go beyond your OCI plans.

 

[Falcon_LS]

Many thanks for all the input!

Originally Posted By: Ibrahim
you are using 0W-40 in Kuwait, its a desert country, you should not be using anything less than 10W-40 or 5W-40...and how in the earth are you able to go that long without changing oil?

we use to change every 2000KM or 2 months....also use to change air filter every time we changed oil....I was born and raised in Saudi Arabia!

Temperature out in the country side use to exceed 50 degree Celsius!


People here still use 20W-50 syrup and change engine oil every 2,000-5,000 km. I've run Motorcraft Premium Synthetic Blend 10w30 for 12,000 kilometres in summer (temperatures up to 60 C). I replace 25% of my slump capacity on the Grand Marquis and Mercedes ML500 with MMO, which waters down the Fuchs Titan SuperSyn LongLife synthetic 5w30 to 5W-20, and run it for 15,000 km. Not a single problem to date, and I replace my air filter every 5,000 km. Modern lubricants have come a long way.

Originally Posted By: Doug Hillary
Hi,
Falcon_LS - You can check the Mobil 1 0W-40 used oil analysis from my Benz in the used oil analysis Forum. This has a similar sump size to you and the lubricant was suitable for continued use. The average OCI for Benzes in the country is around 17kkms and around 18mths-2yrs

It is a two year OCI lubricant for many Euro engines


Thanks very much, Doug! That's very good to hear. I'll have a look at your used oil analysis.

 

[djb]

Originally Posted By: 98dakarM3
Hasn't 0-40 been found to sheer pretty badly after that many miles?

I don't have any data, but I vaguely remember that.


Mobil 1 0W-40 is the "European Car Formulation" that meets BMW Long Life 2001 (BMW LL-01) requirements. I think that it's rated to last two years / 15K miles in a car delivered in Europe, although it will only last one year / 15K miles if the same car is delivered to the U.S.

The standard Mobil 1 5w30 doesn't meet the BMW longevity spec, although the new "ESP 5w30" meets the BMW LL-04 spec.

A further indication that the 5W-40 is more resistant to shear and should last longer is the ACEA A3 rating (vs A1 for the regular 5w30). The ESP-5w30 also has a A3 rating.

The 0W-40 is the oil I have on the shelf for the next two oil change on my Z3, and it will likely stay in for about a year (under 5K miles with a 7 quart sump).

 

[GhostFlame]

Originally Posted By: tig1
Even if this is a sluddger the M1 should be fine in that engine. My daughter had a 99 Lexus 3.0 which was a sluddger but I changed her oil with Mobil 1 10w30 and after she sold it with 85,000 miles there was no visable sign of sludge.

Cuz ya couldnt see it anymore

 

[GhostFlame]

I personally wouldn't do it.

1.) oil gets acidy when it sits... acid causes damage.
2.) Oil is relativley cheap compared to the repairs or damage caused by oil. You may never drive the car long enough to see the effects but, someone may.
3.) I think the sump is too small at 4 qts.
4.) I won't be able to sleep at night knowing there is an engine somewhere in Kuwait that need an oil change.

 

[Falcon_LS]

LOL @ number 4!

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: GhostFlame
Originally Posted By: tig1
Even if this is a sluddger the M1 should be fine in that engine. My daughter had a 99 Lexus 3.0 which was a sluddger but I changed her oil with Mobil 1 10w30 and after she sold it with 85,000 miles there was no visable sign of sludge.

Cuz ya couldnt see it anymore

Your rather insulting, but to answer your remark the evidence was a very clean OC and clean filter. The oil always appeared clean on the dip stick. Also the person my daughter sold the Lexus to has kept the Mobil 1 10w30 for her oil of choice and now the car has over 180,000 miles with no apparent sludge problems at all.

 

[Gary Allan]

Get a sense of humor, tig'r Just the act of shaming the invincible reputation of M1 with the mere suggestion of sludge doesn't constitute an insult under Article 409-AB3 of the M1 fanboys handbook ..and YOU KNOW IT!

 

[tig1]

Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
Get a sense of humor, tig'r Just the act of shaming the invincible reputation of M1 with the mere suggestion of sludge doesn't constitute an insult under Article 409-AB3 of the M1 fanboys handbook ..and YOU KNOW IT!

Coming from a long and upstanding BITOGer like your self I stand corrected. Except my very humble apologies.Three Stooges?? I like those guys!
Article 409-AB3 is hilarius. Where's StevieC at a time like this!

 

[Johnny]

We have a handbook?