Mitsubishi Outlander?

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Mitsubishi really dropped the ball about a decade ago. I've seen a lot of the Lancers and Outlander Sport CVTs go bad. Quality is economy grade. Will it give you issues? hit or miss. Mirages are pretty reliable though from what I've seen.

The new Outlander is directly based off the Nissan Rogue. I've seen some people have very good luck with Rogues, but me personally I won't touch another Nissan again. My last one was absolute garbage.
 
avacado11 said:
Mitsubishi really dropped the ball about a decade ago. I've seen a lot of the Lancers and Outlander Sport CVTs go bad. Quality is economy grade. Will it give you issues? hit or miss. Mirages are pretty reliable though from what I've seen.

The new Outlander is directly based off the Nissan Rogue. I've seen some people have very good luck with Rogues, but me personally I won't touch another Nissan again. My last one was absolute garbage.
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The Rogue is a top seller for Nissan. It's number three after Honda and Toyota and their Rogue sales are up 70% over last year.

So yea......
 
There's been conjecture for years that Mitsubishi was going to abandon the US market. The US operation had not fully recovered from a $500 million writeoff after a really unwise financial promotion aimed at young customers—the notorious 0% down, 0% interest, 0 payments for a year. After a year of free use, many of those people in their 20s abandoned their rides without making any payments. The repossessed cars had to be auctioned at a huge loss.

Despite that, Mitsubishi stuck around. Now I'm not so sure that will continue. The Mitsubishi Fuso line (which was controlled by Mercedes-Benz in recent years) has stopped selling new trucks here. Last year Mitsubishi CEO Takao Kato strongly implied the company might stop selling cars here too. Partner Nissan would concentrate on this market instead.

Tesla sells more cars in the US than Mitsubishi, so you see the problem. Mitsubishi sells ~120,000 cars a year here. In this market that's tiny for such a large company. By comparison, the next smallest Japanese automaker, Mazda, sells 3 times that many at the current pace.

Another issue no one mentions is Mitsubishi's shaky dealer body, which was a problem Suzuki had here too. Some shady used-car dealers have Mitsu new-car franchises, since that is one of the cheapest franchises to get. I've also seen Mitsu dealers come and go here in Virginia.

In my opinion, I would steer clear of Mitsubishi to avoid owning and making payments on an orphaned vehicle. I think the possibility is real this time.
 
They are decent vehicles with solid drivetrains, and considering the alliance with Renault/Nissan, you shouldn't have any issues in case Mitsubishi decides to leave the market.

It won't be built as well as your Galant, Pick Up or Montero was, but they are solid nevertheless.
 
Re ekrampitzjr's post above: "Some shady used-car dealers have Mitsu new-car franchises, since that is one of the cheapest franchises to get."

In a "good crossroads in a good neighborhood" near me is a small building which has been, over the decades, a dealership or repair shop for exotic cars. The site has always had a lot full of interesting used cars too. It goes dark occasionally but always reopens.
It's a Mitsubishi dealership now. I gotta go visit it and see.

Also, is the Outlander body shell now gone (since the new Outlander is a Rogue)?
 
Staring to get in to the market for a new vehicle. The Rogue and the 2022 Outlander are on my list. The new Rogue has a couple of concerning recalls that would prompt me to wait until the 2022MY versions are out. Interestingly, the Outlander gets a 10yr/100K mile powertrain warranty, while the mechanically similar Rogue gets a 5yr/60K powertrain warranty. I might be inclined to pick the Outlander for that reason alone. The Outlander has a 3rd row seat that I don't want or need, but it would just get folded flat and never used.

I am interested to see if Nissan offers a turbo 3cyl option in the Rogue. They have been hinting at it, and it might solve the problem with the current engine being kind of anemic on horsepower and torque. The 3cyl turbo might offer enough of a boost in torque to make it viable. I hate the idea of 3cyl engines, but GM and Ford are using them now and they seem to be doing OK.
 
ryster said above:, " I hate the idea of 3cyl engines, but GM and Ford are using them now and they seem to be doing OK".

I drove about 1,000 miles in a non-turbo, 3 cyl. Subaru Justy in the '90's and couldn't detect anything lacking vs any of the other small cars around.
 
bought an outlander in 2007 (V6, 6speed auto, 4wd) that was a hoot to drive...especially in the winter. Still regret selling it after 4 years of ownership.
 
The standard NA engine in the 2022 Outlander/Rogue has 181hp/181lb-ft torque.

If Nissan's 3cyl turbo engine output is similar to Ford and somewhere around 181hp/190lb-ft of torque, with the torque available at lower RPM, that would be a compelling choice.

If Nissan's 3cyl turbo engine output is more like GM or Mini, then it is going to be a total no-go.
 
The coincidence of auto makers stepping up 3 cyl., GDI and newer valve technology WHILE an increasing number of industry players announce abandonment of the ICE and going more-and-more electric really shouldn't be overlooked.

Pundits claim the infrastructure for e-cars (chargers) doesn't exist yet.
I wonder if charging stations will be scabbed onto buildings as cell phone towers were.

The pandemic emptied buildings/storefronts could be the "waiting rooms" for charging stations of the future.
What was in the old video stores? What's in the emptied video stores now?
 
A friend just purchased one with the 4 cylinder. He loves it and claims 40 mpg on highway. Horsepower is lacking. The cabinet is quiet, but the interior looks and feels cheap. I really like the exterior. (My humble opinion). Although; you get what you pay for. I am a Mitsubishi fan, but they have waned in NA.
 
ryster said:
Staring to get in to the market for a new vehicle. The Rogue and the 2022 Outlander are on my list. The new Rogue has a couple of concerning recalls that would prompt me to wait until the 2022MY versions are out. Interestingly, the Outlander gets a 10yr/100K mile powertrain warranty, while the mechanically similar Rogue gets a 5yr/60K powertrain warranty. I might be inclined to pick the Outlander for that reason alone. The Outlander has a 3rd row seat that I don't want or need, but it would just get folded flat and never used.

I am interested to see if Nissan offers a turbo 3cyl option in the Rogue. They have been hinting at it, and it might solve the problem with the current engine being kind of anemic on horsepower and torque. The 3cyl turbo might offer enough of a boost in torque to make it viable. I hate the idea of 3cyl engines, but GM and Ford are using them now and they seem to be doing OK.
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Never a fan of any turbo engine.....I come from the generation of "no substitute for 'cubes" im still missing inline 6's
 
The 2022 Outlander launches in Oz in a couple of months, we'll be test driving one as soon as possible with a view to upgrading from our current Outlander. The overseas reviews I've read and watched seem very positive and the interior looks like a huge improvement over mine. No mention of a diesel engine being available which is disappointing, but I'll go petrol ("gas") if needs be.

In contrast to the US, Mitsubishi are a big player in the Australian market, with lots of dealerships and the best new car warranty by far. My Outlander hasn't been flawless, but I have no complaints and will happily purchase another one :)
 
Quattro Pete said:
I found the 1.4 turbo 4 in Chevy Trax already very anemic. I can't imagine what a turbo 3 would do in a larger/heavier Rogue.
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I just drove the GM turbo 3 cylinder in the Buick Encore GT earlier this week, I was pleasantly surprised. Enough torque for that car and it didn't sound too bad either.
 
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