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Mmmmm mmmmmmm, sintered Teflon!
MicroGreen Oil Filters.
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Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering
I'm not sure what you were trying to point out Gary?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintering
I'm not sure what you were trying to point out Gary?
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Nothing really ..just a link for those who didn't know what "sintering" involved. Out of a few of the links I found in searching for other sintered Teflon filters ..it's not too common a practice ..with Teflon, at least. Most are metal ..
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Yeah, it struck me as odd that it was done with Teflon as well.......
Thought you were trying to school me on sintering
Thought you were trying to school me on sintering
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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Thought you were trying to school me on sintering
No more than schooling myself.
It was a big jump from what is normally referred to when you hear sintered metal. It's the first time I saw it used in filtration ..but then again, the metered orifice/pcv system on my 3.0 Mitsubishi was allegedly of sintered metal. It just seemed like some complicated process for a simple device.
Thought you were trying to school me on sintering
No more than schooling myself.
I've been waiting for a filter like this for a long time. If this works like they claim, it will simplify bypass filtration.
Today's synthetic oils can definitely hold up to the extended OCIs, but the increase in particulates (especially silicates) scare me away from long OCIs without a bypass filter.
I just ordered a two-pack for my second car, a Toyota Highlander. For $25 per filter, I guess I'm going to be a Guinea Pig.
Today's synthetic oils can definitely hold up to the extended OCIs, but the increase in particulates (especially silicates) scare me away from long OCIs without a bypass filter.
I just ordered a two-pack for my second car, a Toyota Highlander. For $25 per filter, I guess I'm going to be a Guinea Pig.
I would go with the Donaldson or Fleetguard [Amsoil]filters these filters have been well proven over the years in engines costing more than most of our cars. I like all the regurgitated green facts though I do not really care.
well if they expect to sell any of these, they might want to expand their application database. My newest vehicle is older than 1995, which is the oldest model year in their drop down menu! 
Of course I also share the skepticism that the "microfilter" wouldn't just clog within a few hundred miles of installation on an engine anything resembling "dirty."
Oh, and I recall GM at least using sintered metal fuel filters screwed into the inlet of the carburetor. There's a funny(?) story about my dad tearing down a SBC once because it wouldn't run worth a [censored] and he didn't know about that filter... OOPS.
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Of course I also share the skepticism that the "microfilter" wouldn't just clog within a few hundred miles of installation on an engine anything resembling "dirty."
Oh, and I recall GM at least using sintered metal fuel filters screwed into the inlet of the carburetor. There's a funny(?) story about my dad tearing down a SBC once because it wouldn't run worth a [censored] and he didn't know about that filter... OOPS.
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I've been talking to these guys since Dec 07. They are a start up company. The owner has been using the filters way past the 10,000 miles max they recommend. They were telling me that they would go 5,000 miles on a regular filter, do a UOA, then run the same oil with the greenfilter. The next UOA would show much cleaner oil. This was done using Wally World dino oil.
None of this is documented, just a few telephone calls between myself and them. I have no financial or personal interest in this company.
It appears to be a simpler solution to the bypass filtration solutions I've ready about here at BITOG.
I have purchased 2 filters for my 2005 Prius. There are 5,000 miles on my oil now (70,000 on the car). I'll install tomorrow and test the Amsoil 0W30 SSO in June.
I'll get 30k to 35k miles in about 3 years. Can Amsoil SSO last 3 years?
None of this is documented, just a few telephone calls between myself and them. I have no financial or personal interest in this company.
It appears to be a simpler solution to the bypass filtration solutions I've ready about here at BITOG.
I have purchased 2 filters for my 2005 Prius. There are 5,000 miles on my oil now (70,000 on the car). I'll install tomorrow and test the Amsoil 0W30 SSO in June.
I'll get 30k to 35k miles in about 3 years. Can Amsoil SSO last 3 years?
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That's a stretch for anything other than something like a Motor Guard or Frantz where you're swapping out oil routinely. It takes about 24k for the sump to mature.
If you are putting roughly 10,000 miles a year on your Prius, It is unlikely that these are mostly highway miles. And since the Prius engine starts and stops much more often than a conventional ICE, it is likely that there will be some fuel dilution.
You may want to start by getting a filter change & UOA at 1 year. If the UOA looks good you could go another year and do another UOA.
You may want to start by getting a filter change & UOA at 1 year. If the UOA looks good you could go another year and do another UOA.
i do think folks confuse getting on a highway with highway miles,
two different animals i drive about 36 or so miles a day on a freeway, and the miles per hour are any where from 5 to 60, its not as easy on my truck as going 200 continuous miles would be.
two different animals i drive about 36 or so miles a day on a freeway, and the miles per hour are any where from 5 to 60, its not as easy on my truck as going 200 continuous miles would be.
I had some questions about their filter and oil change interval recommendations, so I filled the question form and asked the question below. Here is the email I received from them this morning.
Mr. ******,
Sorry for the delay in responding. Your e-mail got put in quarantine and just showed up this morning.
Timing does come into play. If you do not drive a lot of miles, we recommend you change your filter twice a year and change your oil after 2 years. Fuel and acid build up will not be a problem when using our microGreen oil filter. You can learn more about our company and our new technology oil filter, as well as purchase the microGreen oil filter at: http://www.microgreenfilter.com
Thanks for your interest and have a great day.
Steve
Steve Kirchner
microGreen
Extended Performance Oil Filter
P 877-757-7667 x703
C 772-631-0167
http://www.microgreenfilter.com
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Name: Johnny ******
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Question or request: Most oil change recommendations are based on severe or normal service with either a mileage or time recommendation. Using you calculations of either the 3K or 5K oil change, does time figure in to this? For an example, lets say I only drive 10K per year and change my oil at 5K, according to what I'm reading here, I would change the filter at each 10K and then change the oil at 30K. That would be running the same oil for 3-years. Is that correct? What about the fuel and acid build-up that takes place inside my engine? Thank you
Mr. ******,
Sorry for the delay in responding. Your e-mail got put in quarantine and just showed up this morning.
Timing does come into play. If you do not drive a lot of miles, we recommend you change your filter twice a year and change your oil after 2 years. Fuel and acid build up will not be a problem when using our microGreen oil filter. You can learn more about our company and our new technology oil filter, as well as purchase the microGreen oil filter at: http://www.microgreenfilter.com
Thanks for your interest and have a great day.
Steve
Steve Kirchner
microGreen
Extended Performance Oil Filter
P 877-757-7667 x703
C 772-631-0167
http://www.microgreenfilter.com
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [email protected]
Name: Johnny ******
E-mail: jl******@charter.net
Address:
City: Wausau
State/Province: WI
Zipcode: 54403
Country: USA
Phone:
Fax:
Question or request: Most oil change recommendations are based on severe or normal service with either a mileage or time recommendation. Using you calculations of either the 3K or 5K oil change, does time figure in to this? For an example, lets say I only drive 10K per year and change my oil at 5K, according to what I'm reading here, I would change the filter at each 10K and then change the oil at 30K. That would be running the same oil for 3-years. Is that correct? What about the fuel and acid build-up that takes place inside my engine? Thank you
It's nice to know that the MagicGreen filter takes care of acid and fuel build up too.
Originally Posted By: XS650
It's nice to know that the MagicGreen filter takes care of acid and fuel build up too.
LOL!
I'm experimenting with this filter on my 2009 focus. I'm looking at having Blackstone perform a particle count analysis, thinking this might be the best test for filtering efficiency?
While I know color is not a good indicator, I'm thinking this filter is doing a good job as it has nearly 3,500 miles yet the oil still looks new. An analysis should tell the true story. I wish I had taken a previous oil sample to compare with the oem filter. Oh well!
Anyone else testing this filter?
Doug
It's nice to know that the MagicGreen filter takes care of acid and fuel build up too.
LOL!
I'm experimenting with this filter on my 2009 focus. I'm looking at having Blackstone perform a particle count analysis, thinking this might be the best test for filtering efficiency?
While I know color is not a good indicator, I'm thinking this filter is doing a good job as it has nearly 3,500 miles yet the oil still looks new. An analysis should tell the true story. I wish I had taken a previous oil sample to compare with the oem filter. Oh well!
Anyone else testing this filter?
Doug
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Originally Posted By: DrRocket
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I have purchased 2 filters for my 2005 Prius. There are 5,000 miles on my oil now (70,000 on the car). I'll install tomorrow and test the Amsoil 0W30 SSO in June.
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The above was posted January 2009.
June 2009 has come and gone ... any results yet?
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I have purchased 2 filters for my 2005 Prius. There are 5,000 miles on my oil now (70,000 on the car). I'll install tomorrow and test the Amsoil 0W30 SSO in June.
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The above was posted January 2009.
June 2009 has come and gone ... any results yet?
Interesting thread about the single-unit, combined full-flow and by-pass filter available at the MicroGreenFilter web site. Too bad Cummins doesn't make a Venturi Combo filter for Camrys (didn't see any at the CumminsFiltration site).
I don't understand how MicroGreen can consider 5-micron size particle counts ranging between about 800 and 1,700 a success (see the two graphs on their "On-Road Testing" page). If you look at BITOG member BTanchors' UOA of a Tundra using the full-flow Mobil 1 M1-209 filter, the M1 filter had 5-micron ISO particle counts as good as 364 and 299. Am I missing something as to why MicroGreen considers 800 to 1,700 a success?
I don't understand how MicroGreen can consider 5-micron size particle counts ranging between about 800 and 1,700 a success (see the two graphs on their "On-Road Testing" page). If you look at BITOG member BTanchors' UOA of a Tundra using the full-flow Mobil 1 M1-209 filter, the M1 filter had 5-micron ISO particle counts as good as 364 and 299. Am I missing something as to why MicroGreen considers 800 to 1,700 a success?
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Here's the BITOG link to BTanchors' UOA, in case you're having trouble finding it:
http://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthre...rue#Post1549356
http://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthre...rue#Post1549356
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