And who gets the profits from the extra sales?
Mercedes will use Tesla Supercharger Network
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Extra sales of what? If you want to argue, first start by answering my root question.
Yea, I kind of wondered, will the MB charging stations qualify for the federal money that Biden has set aside for EV growth? Or will MB be installing this infrastructure on their own? Even if MB foots the bill, surely they will turn a profit on it.
Electricity. Electric companies intend to run at a profit. If they don't they'll go bust and get taken over by someone who will.
Who paid for the original electric infrastructure? Likely the same people who will pay for the needed upgrades.
There will be a need for more electricity for lots of reasons - yes for EVs, but also for heat pumps, electric appliances, new housing, community lighting, manufacturing, etc.
Well, I have been paying my electric bill for quite awhile. Just like everyone else.
Electric companies wanna increase capacity so they can sell and deliver more product, like most companies.
Yes, just like everyone else, except they pay to subsidize you so you can pay the $9 a month so often flaunted on this forum.
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I invested in solar. The electric company makes money off the excess generation.
I believe in sound investments. This is one of them. You?
They’re still being installed. They call them Urban Superchargers. A little research shows that Tesla started them in Sept 2017, but the setup closest to my home was installed last year. The base is a lot more compact than the 150/250 kW ones, although I don't think it's critical. It's also 72 kW. I think part of rationale for these are for people living in apartments/condos without home charging options. Faster charging may not save that much more time because of the way it tapers off the charge rate with more charge. I don't know about "urban" though. The one I've used is in a distinctly suburban area.
Superchargers in urban areas have a new post design that occupies less space and is easier to install, making them ideal for dense, highly populated areas. To increase efficiency and support a high volume of cars, these Superchargers have a new architecture that delivers a rapid 72 kilowatts of dedicated power to each car. This means charging speeds are unaffected by Tesla vehicles plugging into adjacent Superchargers, and results in consistent charging times around 45 to 50 minutes for most drivers.
Meh.
1) CCS and Chademo wont be going away
2) Nacs isnt standardized
3) Tesla network has a good reputation because until now it was closed system
4) I prefer CCS for its capability until v4 stations for Tesla roll out. Until then CCS is faster for modern EVs like mine.
1) CCS and Chademo wont be going away
2) Nacs isnt standardized
3) Tesla network has a good reputation because until now it was closed system
4) I prefer CCS for its capability until v4 stations for Tesla roll out. Until then CCS is faster for modern EVs like mine.
I get for your use CCS still makes more sense. Someone needs to get on the ball and install some actual fast ones here. I think that's why there are so few non Tesla EVs here. I do see some Mach-Es and an occasional Rivian, but I don't see many non Teslas unless I'm in Minnesota. I haven't seen how the charger network is there but I assume it must be better because it's the only place I regularly see Hyundai and Kia EVs on the road.
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Do you still recieve a credit for your power generation?
Never got a check, but sometimes the bill is zero. Truth be told, I hardly pay attention anymore due to the minimal cost.
When you say " fit the bill" do you mean who pays the bill ?
When Chevy of Ford cranks out pickups, who do you think paid for those factories? Not Ms. Barra or Mr. Farley.
1. agreed, but their relevance will continue to slide toward irrelevance.
2. Doenst matter. It's the overwhelmingly popular choice.
If you dont have it , it will hurt your sales and your clients will continue to ask for it because it reliably delivers a superior experience.
3. It's still closed. You need a tesla app and tesla account. You can't walk up to it with a credit card nor can third parties arbitrage in.
Tesla is losing money in many places because they arent budging on this.
4. The chargers capability is scondary to the car itself.
CCS with its huge still cable and giant clownish connector has good capability, but the cars themselves determine intake rate more so than the charger is a limiting factor in either case.
No you haven’t. You’ve often bragged about how they pay you, in a sweetheart deal that nobody else can get.
It's been really odd here because the public utilities have advocated so much for more efficient lighting, cooling, and appliances, but that's kind of a cross purpose when it comes to recouping their investments. So regulators have approved higher rates to make up for it while at the same they theoretically can hold off on building more (expensive) generation capacity.
EV charging throws in an additional wrinkle. They had to provide their vehicle information in order to get an EV specific time of use rate, where the lowest rate is considerably lower than the lowest tiered or non-EV time of use rates.
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