Major dam failure in China

Those cheaply made Chinese structures lasted longer than they had any reason to. Chinese made buildings through the belt and road initiative in Venezuela collapsed and they had no rebar at all in those concrete beams. Venezuela got scammed out of over 62 billion from 07-16 for them.
 
It'sa topic that caused massive amounts of argument and fighting on the site so now it's off limits. Check the rules posts.

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Global warming I can see an argument against because it only encompasses the earths increase in temperatures.

Climate change is real and cannot be disputed. Extreme variables in temperatures have been happening since the ice age. The only feeble argument is in regards of there being a solvable solution (which there is not).
 
About half of YT suggested videos on my feed are AI slop with thousands of likes and views, and excited comments.
And as much as those of us who are suffering from slop fatigue might have some latent hope as to this (fatigue) driving a collapse in uptake and a reassessment of policy, your comment (thousands of likes and views, excited comments) betrays that hint of optimism. Underscoring that catering to the lowest common denominator works.

AI slop is the next 'Kardashians"; the next frontier of tik-tok "girl smiling and doing weird moves" mindless garbage, and now it doesn't even require stepping in front of a camera. You can prompt-engineer endless sequences of this slop with less effort than it takes to make a pot of coffee.
 
And as much as those of us who are suffering from slop fatigue might have some latent hope as to this (fatigue) driving a collapse in uptake and a reassessment of policy, your comment (thousands of likes and views, excited comments) betrays that hint of optimism. Underscoring that catering to the lowest common denominator works.

AI slop is the next 'Kardashians"; the next frontier of tik-tok "girl smiling and doing weird moves" mindless garbage, and now it doesn't even require stepping in front of a camera. You can prompt-engineer endless sequences of this slop with less effort than it takes to make a pot of coffee.
The ones I get are usually some doctors, Amish gardeners, deepfake political commentators, etc.
 
My dad used to tell me a story back in his days that when big floods happen, people on both side of a dam would wish that if there is a collapse it would be on "the other side" instead. Sad to say this but these kinds of massive floods have been around a lot in those areas China wasn't really that high net worth back then so I would not be surprised most building back before 2014 were actually not that strong. My aunt's dormitory from a major hospital were build in the 90s and look like a run down building in Detroit that's 80 years old after only 20 years.

As to climate change etc. That's a typical flood in that part of the world and when I was in Hong Kong, during the summer Typhoon season we have things like 1M (that's one meter) of rain within 1 typhoon of about 3 days. Imagine a Cat 1 hurricane hitting a tall mountain where do you think all the water would go? You can try to divert typical rain water but you can't do that for an entire country. Often time they should have drain the water out earlier and let them flood places before a dam collapse, but political pressure (you have the equivalent of federal government saying they will damage the state or county property without compensation to protect the dam) makes it difficult. If you let nature do its thing you can't blame each other, and I guess this is what happen there.
 
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One thing is for sure they failed to track weather and to lower water levels before heavy flooding in upper level.
This is extremely important in areas that get heavy rains and those surrounded by mountains where snow melts and water level can rise quickly. The dam had to have emergency water discharging provisions in its design and tested on regular basis.
 
My dad used to tell me a story back in his days that when big floods happen, people on both side of a dam would wish that if there is a collapse it would be on "the other side" instead. Said to say this but these kind of massive floods have been around a lot in those area. China wasn't really that high net worth back then so I would not be surprised most building back before 2014 were actually not that strong. My aunt's dormitory from a major hospital were build in the 90s and look like a run down building in Detroit that's 80 years old after only 20 years.

As to climate change etc. That's a typical flood in that part of the world and when I was in Hong Kong, during the summer Typhoon season we have things like 1M (that's one meter) of rain within 1 typhoon of about 3 days. Imagine a Cat 1 hurricane hitting a tall mountain where do you think all the water would go? You can try to divert typical rain water but you can't do that for an entire country. Often time they should have drain the water out earlier and let them flood places before a dam collapse, but political pressure (you have the equivalent of federal government saying they will damage the state or county property without compensation to protect the dam) makes it difficult. If you let nature do its thing you can't blame each other, and I guess this is what happen there.
On the other hand, the Great Wall of China was built 24 centuries ago and with a bit of maintenance looks pretty good. :D
 
Those cheaply made Chinese structures lasted longer than they had any reason to. Chinese made buildings through the belt and road initiative in Venezuela collapsed and they had no rebar at all in those concrete beams. Venezuela got scammed out of over 62 billion from 07-16 for them.
Do you have a source about the rebar story? It doesn’t sound credible.
 
Do you have a source about the rebar story? It doesn’t sound credible
I actually believe it. You have to remember most major infrastructure whether they are in developed or developing worlds are a way to funnel money from public to the ones in power. If the people in power have to get some sort of kick back and those get a bit expensive, they have to cut corner somewhere.
 
On the other hand, the Great Wall of China was built 24 centuries ago and with a bit of maintenance looks pretty good. :D
That is actually misleading. Most of today's Great Wall was actually build during the Ming Dynasty, so the "nice" part of it was build 682 years ago. Still durable but not 24 centuries durable.
 
Do you have a source about the rebar story? It doesn’t sound credible.
It's believable I suppose, would like some links for reading.

2000-2005

I do know for a fact some reactors in China, they subbed an inferior stainless. Failed.

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I do know for a fact some brass alloy we directly specified, a sub used an inferior alloy. Fail.
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I do know an electronics assembly house allowed a sub for board assembly and subsequently subbed to an unapproved PCB shop and lied about it. The PCB's caused intermittent failures because there were trapped plating salts/chems in the PTH's. They own up to, I went to the PCB shop. Nasty. Dirt floors, etc. Sometimes I wonder why I have metabolic issues.
 
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