Installed Magnafine in line transmission filter on 07 Fusion 6 speed. Cut lower line to radiator and cranked engine to verify fluid flow direction. I expected pressure from radiator but found it went to it. Since line was cut, I installed filter anyway. Magnafine recommends installation on return line. Car has 30,000 on it. What are the consequences?
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The temperature is much higher than return line, the filter will not lasted very long.
non. you are fine. Installing it in the correct orientation is more important than which cooler line it is located on.
It may see higher fluid temps, but it is well within design, IMO
If the filter catches fire and explodes cuz of fluid temp, you have bigger problems.
It may see higher fluid temps, but it is well within design, IMO
If the filter catches fire and explodes cuz of fluid temp, you have bigger problems.
I've done several of these on several different types of vehicles.
I even did one on a short school bus. (The driver blew the engine, but the transmission held up.)
You will be fine.
I even did one on a short school bus. (The driver blew the engine, but the transmission held up.)
You will be fine.
Make sure the hose clamps are tight and keep an eye on them. We had a Magnefine filter on a power steering line and the hose popped off a couple of years after installation, it was a mess.
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Does the thought of putting a filter,a filter that could eventually restrict flow, on a trans cooler line seem risky?
It has a bypass
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Does the thought of putting a filter,a filter that could eventually restrict flow, on a trans cooler line seem risky?
If it didn't have an internal bypass, yes.
Fortunately the fine folks at Magnafine already took care of that for you.
Does the thought of putting a filter,a filter that could eventually restrict flow, on a trans cooler line seem risky?
If it didn't have an internal bypass, yes.
Fortunately the fine folks at Magnafine already took care of that for you.
I installed it in the supply line vs the return as it was in a better & easier place for the filter to sit. See the response from Magnefine in my prior post.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post2600234
As far as something else in the path to fail, the line to the trans cooler is often steel then rubber then steel. So there are already connections that are clamped. The clamps on my Camry were just spring clamps, and with a Magnefine you get spiral clamps. The benefits far outweigh the risks.
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post2600234
As far as something else in the path to fail, the line to the trans cooler is often steel then rubber then steel. So there are already connections that are clamped. The clamps on my Camry were just spring clamps, and with a Magnefine you get spiral clamps. The benefits far outweigh the risks.
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How do we know the internal filter doesn't filter particles to a smaller size, thus making the external filter pointless?
In-pan strainers are pretty much rock catchers - I believe somewhere around 80 microns was said to be the efficiency of even the best strainers. If I recall correctly, the Magnefine has filtering media around 30 microns. Plus the donut magnet would catch most, if not all ferrous wear material that passes through the filter, and continue to do so even if the filter went into bypass.
How do we know the internal filter doesn't filter particles to a smaller size, thus making the external filter pointless?
In-pan strainers are pretty much rock catchers - I believe somewhere around 80 microns was said to be the efficiency of even the best strainers. If I recall correctly, the Magnefine has filtering media around 30 microns. Plus the donut magnet would catch most, if not all ferrous wear material that passes through the filter, and continue to do so even if the filter went into bypass.
In a properly running auto transmission, I am not sure there is a lot of crud to catch except for the greasy metallic paste I find on the magnet in the Magnefine. The media section seems to only have a few scattered particles. But I still install them on all my vehicles. Also possible there are some 30 micron particles on the media section I cannot see (over 50 yrs old).
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my Camry were just spring clamps, and with a Magnefine you get spiral clamps
Screw spiral clamps are the worst most miserable hose damaging clamps ever made.
The spring clamps seal a lot better in all temps and are hose friendly.
For a good seal on parts like this use either spring clamps or fuel injection clamps.
my Camry were just spring clamps, and with a Magnefine you get spiral clamps
Screw spiral clamps are the worst most miserable hose damaging clamps ever made.
The spring clamps seal a lot better in all temps and are hose friendly.
For a good seal on parts like this use either spring clamps or fuel injection clamps.
I have been using a magnefine on my 4 speed versa for 60,000kms, I have used two so far.
When I reach 25,000kms I take them off, open them up, check em out. So far what I have noticed is that everything seems to be on the magnet and very little particles are actually in the media.
I have run a magnefine for 50,000kms and opened it at 25k - they unscrew apart.
Talking to a tech at magnefine - I was informed the media and unit can last 3+ years on a vehicle - for 50,000kms per use
Every automatic car I ever own will have one of these installed - simply a must have -
When I reach 25,000kms I take them off, open them up, check em out. So far what I have noticed is that everything seems to be on the magnet and very little particles are actually in the media.
I have run a magnefine for 50,000kms and opened it at 25k - they unscrew apart.
Talking to a tech at magnefine - I was informed the media and unit can last 3+ years on a vehicle - for 50,000kms per use
Every automatic car I ever own will have one of these installed - simply a must have -
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my Camry were just spring clamps, and with a Magnefine you get spiral clamps
Screw spiral clamps are the worst most miserable hose damaging clamps ever made.
The spring clamps seal a lot better in all temps and are hose friendly.
For a good seal on parts like this use either spring clamps or fuel injection clamps.
Wholeheartedly agree. Worm-drive clamps are terrible, leak-prone devices. Spring clamps give far better seal and are effectively temperature-compensating as well. I bought OEM spring clamps when I plumbed in a coolant heater in my Golf and they've been leak-free without a single adjustment for the 5 years since I installed it.
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my Camry were just spring clamps, and with a Magnefine you get spiral clamps
Screw spiral clamps are the worst most miserable hose damaging clamps ever made.
The spring clamps seal a lot better in all temps and are hose friendly.
For a good seal on parts like this use either spring clamps or fuel injection clamps.
Wholeheartedly agree. Worm-drive clamps are terrible, leak-prone devices. Spring clamps give far better seal and are effectively temperature-compensating as well. I bought OEM spring clamps when I plumbed in a coolant heater in my Golf and they've been leak-free without a single adjustment for the 5 years since I installed it.
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