MacOS Monterey

[SubLGT]

Apple released Monterey 12.0.1 a few days ago. I have not installed it yet on my new M1 Mini.
Waiting for this bug to be eliminated:

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/10/29/monterey-usb-hub-issues-reported/

.......There have been several reports on Reddit, Apple's Developer Forums, and Apple's Support Communities about the issues. In some cases, users say the the USB 3.0 ports on their hub no longer work since upgrading to Monterey, while HDMI, USB-C, and other hub ports continue to work as expected.

In other user reports surfacing online, the USB hubs fail to work at all. Some of the problems even relate to Apple certified hubs. Reddit user Flyersny81 relates their experience......

 

[bunnspecial]

I never upgrade until either at least the .2 release if not later.

It frustrates me that Apple feels this incessant need to come out with a new OS every year. Big Sur is still buggy in some ways for me, and more than likely they'll never get fixed now that it's been moved on to Monteray.

Go back to the days of Tiger or Snow Leopard where you take 2+ years to actually get a good, stable OS and then start dropping the next one. Apple has shown how they're going to be about this, though.

 

[Greggy_D]

I usually wait a month or two before upgrading to a new major MacOS release. Let all the kinks get worked out.

 

[SubLGT]

Go back to the days of Tiger or Snow Leopard where you take 2+ years to actually get a good, stable OS and then start dropping the next one.

I fondly remember those good old days, going way back to System 7. In recent years, the major MacOS updates are accompanied by high anxiety.

 

[uc50ic4more]

I usually wait a month or two before upgrading to a new major MacOS release. Let all the kinks get worked out.

I've always felt sorry for Microsoft and the maintainers of the plethora of Linux distros as they try to satisfy a quality of operation on near-infinite varieties of hardware.

But when your hardware is a known quantity I am finding it difficult to believe that Apple so routinely steps on their you-know-whats in terms of minor bugs and annoyances.

 

[skyactiv]

No problems yet on my M1 Mac mini. I have a PS2 to USB adaptor for my keyboard and a SD card reader.

 

[alarmguy]

SKyactiv ... I was so tempted to click the update tab on my MacMini yesterday and I assume there is one on my MacBook Air but Im going to wait, would love more feedback as you use it. I only updated Safari yesterday to 15.1

 

[SubLGT]

A very interesting comment about macOS security updates:

Last week, though, the penalties with staying on Big Sur or Catalina were spelled out in starker terms: if you want all the latest security fixes, then you must run the current release of macOS, as older versions, even though still in security maintenance, don’t get them all.

Many of us had already suspected this to be the case, but it was the careful analysis of last week’s upgrade and updates by Josh Long @theJoshMeister, Chief Security Analyst at Intego, which provided the ****ing evidence: more than 20 of the vulnerabilities fixed in 12.0.1 have been left unpatched in 11.6.1 and Catalina Security Update 2021-007.

I don’t think for a moment that Apple’s security engineers are deliberately withholding fixes from the two previous versions of macOS to ‘punish’ those who haven’t upgraded to Monterey. It’s far more likely to be a simple matter of cost and benefit. Fixing some of the known vulnerabilities can require considerable effort, in some cases as much as rewriting substantial parts of the kernel or one of its multitude of extensions. If the perceived benefits are low, and the costs of implementing a fix are high, it’s only understandable that some only make it to the current version of macOS. Apple’s priority is quite reasonably to ensure that Monterey is as good as it can make it.

https://eclecticlight.co/2021/10/31/last-week-on-my-mac-the-pioneers-are-winning/

 

[SubLGT]

https://www.intego.com/mac-security...y-make-users-security-and-privacy-precarious/

The company often delays patching vulnerabilities for many months after researchers report them.

Apple frequently waits to disclose the fact that it patched a vulnerability for a month (or longer) before adding it to the list of issues resolved in a given update.

The company almost never publicly states its policies about how long a given operating system will get security updates, or what types of security issues will continue to get patched.

Apple also doesn’t explicitly state why it patches some vulnerabilities for some operating system versions but not others. Security-conscious users can only speculate.

Last month, I spoke at Objective by the Sea v4.0, an Apple-focused security conference, about this very subject. Specifically, I focused on whether the two previous versions of macOS get the same treatment as the current macOS version when it comes to security updates.

But the executive summary is this: being on the very latest version of macOS is mandatory to stay safe from every “actively exploited” (i.e. in the wild) vulnerability. Those are generally among the most problematic security issues, because bad guys are already using them against their targets.

 

[PWMDMD]

I've been running Monteray all through beta on Intel and M1 and it has been by far the least buggy release in many years. My biggest question right now is whether or not MS will continue to support Windows 11 ARM? I get now through the Insiders program and so far it is super stable in ParalIels on M1 MacBook Pro. I use one important software package at work that is Windows only in Parallels and it works great using a Mac/Parallels at work since the rest of my life on the Mac. If they will commit to Windows 11 ARM I'd happily get an M1-based Mac for work.

 

[parshisa]

Have it on my MBA M1. No issues. Neither with 15.1 on my iPhone/iPad mini

 

[Kuato]

I never upgrade until either at least the .2 release if not later.

It frustrates me that Apple feels this incessant need to come out with a new OS every year. Big Sur is still buggy in some ways for me, and more than likely they'll never get fixed now that it's been moved on to Monteray.

Go back to the days of Tiger or Snow Leopard where you take 2+ years to actually get a good, stable OS and then start dropping the next one. Apple has shown how they're going to be about this, though.

I'm with you--still on Catalina.

Wonder why Apple feels the need to compete with microsloth in this manner...

 

[SubLGT]

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/01/macos-monterey-bricking-older-macs/

If this sounds oddly familiar, it may be because last year, with the launch of macOS Big Sur, similar reports surfaced about that update bricking older MacBook Pro models. Less than a year later, similar issues are now seemingly taking place once again.

All user reports suggest the issue is impacting older MacBook Pro, Mac mini, and ‌iMac‌ models. More recent computers such as Apple silicon-based Macs are not seemingly having problems, at least according to the lack of user reports suggesting so.

While the issue with ‌macOS Monterey‌ bricking Mac computers is not as widespread as last year with macOS Big Sur, enough users are reporting that the update is causing problems to warrant some concern. It's possible that following this article, even more users will come forward and share their experience with ‌macOS Monterey‌ causing issues on their Macs.

Apple is currently testing macOS 12.1, but that isn't expected to be released for at least several more weeks. ‌macOS Monterey‌ is still in its first version, and it's typically a safe bet to wait until several updates are released before updating to the latest version from a previous generation. It's possible a smaller dot-update could be released to address bugs and security fixes.

 

[kschauweker]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-macos-monterey-bricking-macs

 

[SubLGT]

https://www.macrumors.com/2021/11/01/macos-monterey-memory-leak-user-reports/

It's difficult to pinpoint precisely what models of Mac computers are affected; however, the range is relatively wide, including the newly released 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros. Reports on Twitter, Reddit, the MacRumors Forums, and the Apple Support Communities consist of users reporting their Mac warning that the system has "run out of application memory" or that specific applications are consuming ridiculously high amounts of RAM in Activity Monitor.

 

[kschachn]

Am I the only one that thinks the default Monterey desktop background is the ugliest thing I've ever seen? Or am I doing something wrong?