M1 torque specs
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Doesn't it say after the gasket makes contact? Is that unclear?
Do you actually use a torque wrench on your filters? Do other filters publish a torque specification?
Do you actually use a torque wrench on your filters? Do other filters publish a torque specification?
Hmmm all I could find is the drain plug on my car is 18 ft. lbs. and the oil cover cap is 18ft lbs as well. It’s a cartridge filter.
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Sure on some things, this takes a regular cap wrench but requires 10Nm torque which is actually about a turn and a half from initial contact on this particular filter.
It should be the same torque spec for any filter for a given car/engine, regardless of brand.
Only tighten it by hand. Do not use an oil filter wrench to tighten.
Only tighten it by hand. Do not use an oil filter wrench to tighten.
Some vehicle service manuals do call out an oil filter torque spec. I've torqued oil filters to the spec for those vehicles before, and it comes out to ~3/4 to 7/8 turn after gasket initial contact.
I have seen a torque spec printed on some Japanese OEM filters - Suzuki and/or Yamaha cycle filters I believe IIRC.
I have seen a torque spec printed on some Japanese OEM filters - Suzuki and/or Yamaha cycle filters I believe IIRC.
Say? Nope, no words on this filter, just 4 little 1/4"x1/4" pict-grams and the last one on it shows "3/4".
But I was not asking about what the filter says or shows, I was asking why M1's do not come with a torq spec. Was my question not clear?
Ah yes this thread is headed right where those others ended up.
Because they have converted a torque with a lubed gasket to a turn amount (like every other filter on the market) so guys don't have to buy or use a torque wrench. Does the obtuseness never cease?
Perhaps because there is no practical need for a torque spec on an oil filter?
My question would be, why were you expecting a torque spec on an oil filter? I see above where Trav and Zee0Six say they have seen spin-on filters with torque specs. But I cannot recall ever seeing a torque spec on a spin-on. They all have a graphic or wording that instruct to turn about 3/4 of a turn after gasket contact.
How do you get from my post that I was "expecting" it to have a torq spec? Expecting it means like all have torq spec less the one I have.
I am perhaps not expecting it, was asking why they don't have it. Filter torq specs are not magical mystery things just because you and someone else have never seen it before. I have seen it many times, and was wondering why M1 doesn't have it. Simple question, no?
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The spec is specified by the oem if there is one, not the filter unless its an oem filter. Mazda filter attached.
You didn’t ask that. You asked:
- Whether M1 has a torque spec.
- Whether “tighten by hand...” is the torque spec.
Again, you didn’t ask that. See previous post.
Because they don't. Just like almost all other filter manufacurers, they use turn amount after the lubricated gasket contacts the mount base (printed on the can and box), which basically equates to a torque spec behind the scenes - not too hard to grasp and twist.
Use bits of masking tape on the filter and a point of reference on the engine if it seems important to you.
Nothing unpleasant happens if it is .72 or .77 instead of .75 of a turn.
I notice the applications where a torque spec is specified the filters all seem to use an O ring seal not a flat cut seal and the filters are mounted on a bike where a leak could lets just say make life a bit more exciting as the rear wheel runs over the leaking oil.
I think Mobil wants it accurate so uses turns. Shop manuals spec torque because they want to spec everything consistently in units I would suppose. With thick gaskets turns is the accurate way to compress the gasket under all installer conditions. Turns is distance it can’t be messed up.
I service a friend's 2015 Grand Cherokee with the Turbo Diesel V6.
There is a torque spec for the hard plastic oil filter cartridge and (2) water separators.
What is the Mobil1 filter torque spec?
According to my brother's spec, "How hard do you want it to be when you take it off?"
All good.
There is a torque spec for the hard plastic oil filter cartridge and (2) water separators.
What is the Mobil1 filter torque spec?
According to my brother's spec, "How hard do you want it to be when you take it off?"
All good.
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