LX-25 VS Scorpion AS3+

Bump for any updates from current users of either tire.....Looking at both for wife's MDX - 265/45r20's.
 
Bump for any updates from current users of either tire.....Looking at both for wife's MDX - 265/45r20's.

I am literally sitting in a Discount Tire having the Pirelli Scorpions installed on my SUV. I wouldn’t be able to tell you much, impression wise, as I would prefer to have at least 1k miles on the tires to be able to provide constructive feedback.

FWIW, the original tires, Bridgestone Alenza Sport all season (235/55/20 - V rated) lasted only 33k miles. Treadwear rating was 500.

That’s with four tire rotations and two alignments during those 33k miles.
 
The Q5 came with Continental Cross Contact LX <blah-blah-blah> tires. After much research, replaced them with Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+, which are V speed rated. Better in every way than the original tires, and they were great tires.

I typically buy from Discount Tire, but others probably have a similar policy. You can drive a set of tires up to 30 days, and if you don't like them, exchange for a different tire.

We bought a Honda Pilot about 10 days ago. It came with Bridgestone Alenza tires, 255-50-R20. The Extreme Contacts were 255-45-R20s. I tried to justify having the dealer swap tires, but I couldn't, even with such a slight difference in size. I hope these Bridgestones wear out quickly.
 
The Q5 came with Continental Cross Contact LX <blah-blah-blah> tires. After much research, replaced them with Continental Extreme Contact DWS06+, which are V speed rated. Better in every way than the original tires, and they were great tires.

I typically buy from Discount Tire, but others probably have a similar policy. You can drive a set of tires up to 30 days, and if you don't like them, exchange for a different tire.

We bought a Honda Pilot about 10 days ago. It came with Bridgestone Alenza tires, 255-50-R20. The Extreme Contacts were 255-45-R20s. I tried to justify having the dealer swap tires, but I couldn't, even with such a slight difference in size. I hope these Bridgestones wear out quickly.

What is the tread wear rating on your Alenzas? Alenza Ultra or Alenza Sport?

Some BITOG members have proffered that the OE tires on vehicles are not lasting as long as aftermarket tires from the same manufacturer.

The manager at the Discount Tire store said the same thing without me asking if it’s true. Probably in response to my observation that 33k miles is the least amount of mileage I have ever gotten from a set of tires before they reached 4/32nds.

I declined to be the test case for OE versus aftermarket mileage with those Bridgestones!
 
Mine are Sport A/S. Bridgestone website shows 40k for this size. I would never buy this tire and will probably change them out before too long. I've always been a Michelin man (pun intended), but am now sold on the Contis, especially the Extreme Contact DWS06+. Europe already has the next generation of this tire. Maybe by the time I'm ready to swap, they'll be available in the US.

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I am literally sitting in a Discount Tire having the Pirelli Scorpions installed on my SUV. I wouldn’t be able to tell you much, impression wise, as I would prefer to have at least 1k miles on the tires to be able to provide constructive feedback.

FWIW, the original tires, Bridgestone Alenza Sport all season (235/55/20 - V rated) lasted only 33k miles. Treadwear rating was 500.

That’s with four tire rotations and two alignments during those 33k miles.
Keep us posted on those new Pirelli's - as I have a few months before I pull the trigger.
 
Have had both, currently the Conti LX25 (H rated SL load range) which replaced the Pirelli AS3+ (V Rated and XL load range)

Mostly subjective but I like the Conti's better but I would say only marginally. Both are better than the Firestone LE2's that were on it when we bought the vehicle. Got them off early.

2019 Chevy Equinox Premiere. Size is P235/50-19
 
Some BITOG members have proffered that the OE tires on vehicles are not lasting as long as aftermarket tires from the same manufacturer

Allow me to confirm that OE tires generally don't wear as well as aftermarket tires. That's because the car makers specify tires with low rolling resistance so their fuel economy numbers are good. To do that, the tire makers sacrifice wear and or traction, especially wet traction. The car makers don't care about tire wear, and only care a bit about wet traction, so they are OK with that.

I go into more detail here: Barry's Tire Tech: OE Tires
 
I have lx25s and cross climate 2s both on factory rims for a 2018 suv. Lx25 all day as far as comfort and quietness. If I had to knock them ,it would be over appearance. There’s nothing eye catching or sporty about them and actually makes my car look worse than the Michelins. I’m trying to wear out the cc2s and will replace them with pro contacts and save the lxs for winter.
 
I've had both on a 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and I would say that the two tires are very comparable. LX25 got noisy when they were down to ~5/32 tread. I am not quite there yet with the AS3, so I don't know if they will do the same.
 
Allow me to confirm that OE tires generally don't wear as well as aftermarket tires. That's because the car makers specify tires with low rolling resistance so their fuel economy numbers are good. To do that, the tire makers sacrifice wear and or traction, especially wet traction. The car makers don't care about tire wear, and only care a bit about wet traction, so they are OK with that.

I go into more detail here: Barry's Tire Tech: OE Tires
I hear this thought or theory a lot. I’ve never investigated its truth, I’ll check your article soon. But if an oe Bridgestone turanza is to last less than an aftermarket same exact Bridgestone turanza, wouldn’t that be shown in the treadwear rating? And if there was a rolling resistance difference wouldn’t that be noted somewhere by a special designation or slightly different model number?
 
I hear this thought or theory a lot. I’ve never investigated its truth, I’ll check your article soon. But if an oe Bridgestone turanza is to last less than an aftermarket same exact Bridgestone turanza, wouldn’t that be shown in the treadwear rating? And if there was a rolling resistance difference wouldn’t that be noted somewhere by a special designation or slightly different model number?
tirerack notes this on some tires.
 
I've had both on a 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and I would say that the two tires are very comparable. LX25 got noisy when they were down to ~5/32 tread. I am not quite there yet with the AS3, so I don't know if they will do the same.
That’s where cross climates shine. They’re just as noisy new as when they’re half worn out.
 
I hear this thought or theory a lot. I’ve never investigated its truth, I’ll check your article soon. But if an oe Bridgestone turanza is to last less than an aftermarket same exact Bridgestone turanza, wouldn’t that be shown in the treadwear rating? And if there was a rolling resistance difference wouldn’t that be noted somewhere by a special designation or slightly different model number?
There is quite a bit of variability in the UTQG treadwear test - I've documented 16%, which can be 100 points on a long wearing tire - and tire manufacturers sometimes take advantage of that. Sometimes even retesting if they don't like the first result.

And Yes! - sometimes the tire name is modified to indicate a difference. Like a Goodstone FireEagle QX - the QX being the variant. But that is not always the case.
 
Update on my Pirellis. So 3.5 years/30K miles, wear is even and tires all sit at ~8/32" so started at 11 so down 3/32", they really are lasting nicely and are still quiet/comfy. I rotate every oil change so ~5K miles.
 
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