Lowest temp you can charge A/C?

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Getting a car that's been sitting 6 years back on the road. A/C compressor kicks on but pressure on the gauges are low. It's in the low 40's today. Any problem doing an evac and recharge? I was surprised it even worked. Don't they have a sensor to prevent operation below 50° or 55°?
 
Someone asked if they could recharge in cold weather and someone else answered yes, but that doesn't say if they mean 50° or 5° is considered cold. I'll assume if the compressor came on, it's not too cold.
 
Someone asked if they could recharge in cold weather and someone else answered yes, but that doesn't say if they mean 50° or 5° is considered cold. I'll assume if the compressor came on, it's not too cold.
Yes the compressor cycles in relation to the suction pressure. So if it’s running then it’s running, I’ve charged many systems when it is cold. You may have to heat the refrigerant container and it may take a while to get the entire weight into the system but if it’s running it will work eventually.
 
Based on my experience (DIY not professional), it is possible but difficult to do when it is colder.
I missed mine when I did mine at less than 60F.
I had to fix it when the temp when it is above 80F.
 
Hmmm, my system has a pressure switch that only allows the compressor to engage when the pressure is higher than x value.. Anyone else have this feature?
 
Forgive my ignorance, my understanding is that the oil lubricates the compressor? Am I wrong here?
Meaning that the pressure needs to be high enough to engage the compressor, thereby saving your compressor from running with out lubrication?
 
Yes the compressor cycles in relation to the suction pressure. So if it’s running then it’s running, I’ve charged many systems when it is cold. You may have to heat the refrigerant container and it may take a while to get the entire weight into the system but if it’s running it will work eventually.

My 134a recovery machine decided to act-up today, Needed to finish up a engine swap.....

Using a 30 pounder roughly 80% full, Set on my Scale upside down (Liquid). I was able to get the entire 1.04 pounds in the system using a Mapp to heat the cylinder.....Without the engine/compressor running.

Then I manually rotated the compressor to clear the Liquid just to be on the safe side.
 
IF you know there is enough oil in the system, then any temp safe recharge is possible as long as you have access to the HP side via a port after you pulled a vacuum on the system AND you know the correct mass of refrigerant to insert .................. going in via the HP side (and NOT LP side), the liquid will flash and circulate automatically throughout the whole system with no danger of damaging the compressor.

If the system only needs "topping-up" then you need to know about AC theory and have access to the P/T tables for the specific refrigerant
 
Always evacuate, always charge, by weight, liquid refrigerant to the HIGH SIDE ONLY (to avoid damaging the compressor valves), finish with low side if necessary making sure to vaporize liquid (by only cracking open gauge low side a little, low gauge bouncing, or a kwik charge/vaporizer). Keeping tanks indoors helps to increase tank pressure, & charging inverted/liquid helps too. I don't top up outside in winter, too easy to overcharge! (Always nice to have a question in my specialty!)
 
IF you know there is enough oil in the system, then any temp safe recharge is possible as long as you have access to the HP side via a port after you pulled a vacuum on the system AND you know the correct mass of refrigerant to insert .................. going in via the HP side (and NOT LP side), the liquid will flash and circulate automatically throughout the whole system with no danger of damaging the compressor.

If the system only needs "topping-up" then you need to know about AC theory and have access to the P/T tables for the specific refrigerant

When I use a machine, I always and exclusively use the HP port to charge. Unless the HP port is not there or can't be reached or something. Exactly for the reason you describe.

I did do some big systems where we didn't know the exact weight it took, then I do it with the system running after a low initial fill, and monitor the pressures and temperatures. But these tend to be big systems, taking over 50 pounds of refrigerant.
 
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