Loosing traction control bad when's raining?

[Rp1990]

2004 Nissan maxima

When the roads are WET I'm using control on steering car going left n right.

I have 20" flaken-452 tires 3 months old n I did alignment but they didn't it do it right so I didn't have time to go back they.

I can't go past 40-45 mph if do loosing traction control on raining condition only don't do it when's dry.

Alignment issues?

 

[Camu Mahubah]

Does the car pull to the right or left on dry roads? Does this only occur in the wet? when it's raining? Hmmm...

 

[Camu Mahubah]

I just saw where you said this doesn't happen when it is dry. I think you need to google that tire and see if others have trouble in the rain with it.

I hardly doubt it is the alignment. Others will chime in soon.

 

[willix]

I'm not following you. I bit confused. I will say that just because it has a ultra performance rating doesn't mean they will work out well in the rain after modifying the wheels to 20's". What does a 04' Maxima come with for a OEM wheel? 16"?

The tires are have a nice rain tread that should channel rain very well.

I have heard some of these wheels not fitting the hub pilot correctly combined with universal lug patterns. They also may be loosening.

You have given up 4" of sidewall flex & wet weather driving problems may be the compromise you have to live with for the big wheels. To put a positive spin on it "you got the look you wanted"

 

[cbear]

Were they installed backwards? There should be an arrow indication the direction of rotation on the sidewall.

 

[5sfe91]

Originally Posted By: cbear
Were they installed backwards? There should be an arrow indication the direction of rotation on the sidewall.


^^^This^^^

These are directional and should have great wet traction. Make sure they are installed the right way

 

[Smoky14]

Are you loosing traction OR traction control? Couldn't understand which by your question

 

[hounddog]

Are you taking about hydro planing? Traction control won't stop a wide tire from loosing traction in the wet.It only works with wheel spin.

 

[eljefino]

The shape of your contact patch has changed... for the worse. It's now a wide floating tire.

 

[JHZR2]

Personally I see no practicality, look, or performance benefit. But why not at least demand a proper job?

If not mounted, aligned, set-up properly, all you are doing is getting excess wear and tear on pricey tires, and likely killing your fuel economy.

Get the people you paid to get to the bottom of this before you end up having to pay again.

 

[FL_Rob]

Simple analogy: The wider tires act like a flat bottom boat.Hydroplaning happens regardless.Tread design,at what speed or depth of water and vehicle weight are some of the variables.

 

[willix]

Originally Posted By: eljefino

The shape of your contact patch has changed... for the worse. It's now a wide floating tire.


+1 on that illustration!

 

[Quest]

aside from wide tires (hydroplaning) and possibility of wrong installations(not observing the directionality of the tire threads), part of the deal that I strongly suspect is that OP's car has been highly modified (rice'd up?) with lowering springs, stiffer shocks, etc. things that would exacerbate the matter of road handling/control more.

*my 2c's worth*

Q.

 

[Rand]

Could you repost the question in english without shortcut words and being descriptive.

I see 3 or 4 possible meanings from my interpretation of your engrish.

Seems other people are also.

I'm guessing you dont even have traction control on that car.
And you were talking about hydroplaning but not having to guess would make correct answers possible.

 

[FZ1]

The big picture is;you have changed the suspension,center of gravity,and handling of your car,by going to such an over spec tire size. Consider it a cheap life lesson. Remember:If it ain't broke;Don't fix it.

 

[Rp1990]

Only in wet condition I losse control other then that is fine. I know my steering don't face straight in straight line hmmm could this be the issue of alignment that they didn't do it right? How would I know if they put tire backward? Any picture would be grateful.


I can't go past 45 mph n I know I haven't done balance never n I feel vibrate from steering.

 

[willix]

The gigantic rims & tires need balance. That's a lot of rubber turning.

 

[Rp1990]

Not doing balance have anything to do with loosing control?

 

[rpn453]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
The shape of your contact patch has changed... for the worse. It's now a wide floating tire.


Not only that, but the large wheels likely have excessive outset, so hydroplaning will be felt through the steering wheel much more.

 

[CapriRacer]

It's obvious that we are having language issues. Allow me to simplify this by asking a series of questions:

1) Current tire size: Yes, I know they are 20's but what are the other numbers!

2) Current tire pressure: Not what you think it is supposed to be, what is it if you measured it right now!

3) Original tire size and pressure: Both are on a placard which will be located on a door or doorpost or in the glovebox, or on the fuel filler door, or in the trunk.

3) Your problem is wet traction - correct? Does it only occur at high speeds? What speed?

4) How many miles on the current tires?