Looked at a 2015 Dodge Journey for friends

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Friends from church (new Canadians from the Central African Republic, very nice people) are looking for a vehicle.

They asked me to accompany them. This morning we looked at a private sale they'd found on Facebook Marketplace, a 2015 Dodge Journey.

Mileage (185,000 km) is not unreasonable for a 2015.

The owner was away, but his 20ish son had trouble starting the engine.

He did get it running, and we went for a drive. It drove OK for what it is (the 2.4 litre 4-banger seemed to have to work pretty hard with three of us onboard, and I assume the AT is a 4-speed) until it stalled out about a block from home. It eventually started, and I read the code - P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor.

The young man said he would ask his father to get it fixed.

It would not be my choice of vehicle, but the price is not bad for this market (C$8,000, possibly negotiable), and my friends, the prospective buyers, like it.

They need to hold five adults, and that pretty much means one would have to fit into the very cramped 3rd row.

I can take it for a mechanical inspection on short notice if they do want to pursue it.

I've also recommended that they run a CARFAX - much of the driver's side has been repainted, evidenced by a lot of orange-peel paint.

Thoughts on the Journey in general, and the 2.4 litre engine?
 
Seems desperate? I'd hold out for the Pentastar -- it does Pentastar things but all those things are well known and it's zippy. Was this AWD?

Locally here is an '18 for sale, AWD/3.6 but 180k freedom units. Clean, straight, zero rust, needs front struts. They were asking $7500 freedom dollars but it wasn't moving. They've dropped it to $6800 which is still laughable AFAIC -- and it's still not moving.
 
Seems desperate? I'd hold out for the Pentastar -- it does Pentastar things but all those things are well known and it's zippy. Was this AWD?

Locally here is an '18 for sale, AWD/3.6 but 180k freedom units. Clean, straight, zero rust, needs front struts. They were asking $7500 freedom dollars but it wasn't moving. They've dropped it to $6800 which is still laughable AFAIC -- and it's still not moving.
FWD. I would guess AWD was only available with the Pentastar.
 
My mother had a 2.4 FWD journey and it's the reason I would never buy anything Chrysler to this day. Every other week the thing was acting up. That particular example was nothing but a pain. Interior was falling apart at 100k miles.

It's a shame because I thought it actually drove decently well. Pretty comfortable. Super easy oil changes on that 2.4,
 
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this is how (one of many ways) poor people stay poor----keep putting money into money pits and nuke their own savings.

yes, I'm being patronizing. and unfortunately in these times, saying the harsh truth = bad; making people feel good but worse off in the long run = good.
 
this is how (one of many ways) poor people stay poor----keep putting money into money pits and nuke their own savings.

yes, I'm being patronizing. and unfortunately in these times, saying the harsh truth = bad; making people feel good but worse off in the long run = good.
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten."
 
this isn't meant to be snarky, but of course will come across as that...

instead of plucking the $$$ into that Journey, spend that money to get the buyer into auto mechanics school, whatever the Canadian equivalent of ASE. That would be a better use of their $$$.
 
Canada has more choices than the US in terms of 7-seaters. The Chevy Orlando is the most notable example. You also got a second generation of the Kia Rondo that wasn't sold in the US. Here is a nice 2014 Rondo. Maybe you might like this Mazda5

From the listings I saw, prices in your area are so high it might be cheaper to go to Ontario for a day and drive it home :D

The mention of an FCA TIPM scares me.

Fixed :sneaky:
 
Wow, I did a quick search and Winnipeg seems to be very expensive for used cars! In southern Ontario I'd snap up a nice fwd CX-5, Mazda 5 for $8-9k and call it good.
Maybe do a $80 flight to Toronto or Hamilton, and get something here, and do the nice drive around Lake Superior?
 
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