Lincoln 140 HD!

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Pretty stoked, just picked up a brand new welder. 110v Lincoln 140 HD MIG/ flux setup. My Snap-On is MIG only, so it will be nice to have more options to learn with. I'm very much a novice, but have welded a few things successfully. I just really need to get out there and practice. Going to pick up some angle iron from the metal place down the road and make some welds. Anyone else have one? Seems like a great starter unit.
 
110 volt welders are pretty much toys. I did some welding on the rollbar to frame plates on the vette and I had to turn it up, go really slow, and burn the heck out of it to get any decent penetration.

They tend to produce metal pools that sit on top of the surface. But I believe they work well for auto sheet metal repair. Thin stuff.
 
Well the clutch linkage rod on my truck is still holding up 1.5 years after I temporarily welded it with my 110v snap on mig setup. I'm not planning on welding car frames or anything so 110v should be ok as I learn. Hopefully I can get a 220v outlet when we buy a home, but still renting. Not going to spend the $500+ to upgrade someone else's property.
 
I just replaced my old Miller MM 180 with a new Miller MM 211, after a conversation with TIG 1, looking at them at the dealer actually trying them out and doing a lot of research I went with the new Miller inverter machine.
The old machines like the Lincoln and my old 180 are transformer based, not that that is a bad thing they are just heavy, have a shorter duty cycle and use more power for the same output but have a long and proven track record for high reliability.
The new Miller 140 is also inverter based, is lighter and more portable and the Lincoln 140 competition.

The 120v is fine for light stuff and is well suited to automotive work especially sheet metal but the flux core wire sucks, lousy looking welds and needs more amps that can blow holes in sheet metal, gas is the only way to go for this sort of work.
I use quick connects on the regulators and separate guns so I can switch gases and wire size quickly without having to swap the gun liner for smaller diameter wire, it also makes the unit more portable with a small bottle.

Consider a small bottle with a quick connect (cyberweld.com has them cheap)and use .023-.025 wire in these small units, it requires less amps and is less likely to blow holes in sheet metal.

The Lincoln is a good little welder, I looked at the 180 dual and Miller 211 and was torn between the two.
What I liked about the Lincoln..
Small size so it fits on inexpensive welding carts with no problems.
The angled all metal drive system.
Transformer based.
Nice ground clamp
It has a good name.
Good cash rebate or free Lincoln auto dark helmet and jacket/gloves package.
3 yr warranty

What I didn't like..
Made in Mexico.
Transformer based. Yes I like them and dislike them at the same time.
Heavy.
Cheap feeling controls. I don't think they are cheap, they just feel like a 1970's AM car radio.

The miller 140 is its direct competitor and is similar in size to the 211 I bought but its not dual voltage and less power.

The likes..
Made in USA.
Angled all metal drive.
Light weight just 38lb.
Smooth as glass controls.
Auto set with different gas settings.
Inverter based unit.
Auto cooling fan control.
3 yr warranty

Dislikes..
Size, it is longer than the transformer based units requiring a larger cart.
Power switch on the back of the unit.
Inverter, while proven technology it is fairly recent in this size of Miller machines (more electronics?
Price, it is more expensive, only time will tell if its worth it.
Cheap Cheesy ground clamp, it looks like they robbed it off a set of $5 jumper cables from Walmart. That went in the trash right out of the box and replaced with an all brass Tweko.

I think its a coin toss between them, I was honestly frustrated going back and forth between the two. Both are good machines. I have 220v but run it on 120 for most of the work I do which is mostly thin sheet metal and thin metals less then 3/16", it does fine.
For thicker stuff pop it on 220 and it becomes a different welder, the inverter is a much smoother arc than the transformer machine.
I think what pushed me to the Miller was the newest generation of Auto Set, It seems very accurate on 120 or 220v even on 18ga sheet metal and the additional 30 available amps.
 
Like the others have said - you gotta be careful to not burn holes in sheet metal. BUT - a flux core welder has been handy a few times!

If you aren't a good welder, it's going to make bad looking welds. But I have welded up an exhaust and stuck together some 1/4'' plate (and then proceeded to pull a Jeep with it) without issue with my HF flux core welder.

It ain't pretty, but flux will do the job. will be patching a few holes in the floor of the Cherokee soon along with patching the 16 gauge sheetmetal frame on the Cherokee with the flux.
 
I would love to have one. Not that I have much use for it at home, anything I've needed welded, I've just taken it to work and done it there. Maybe someday I'll splurge on one of these babies so I can play @ home... haha... Congrats, looks like a nice unit!
 
Yeah, it has a tank (I kept that from my Snap On mig setup), but I want to build some outdoor storage stuff with angle iron and stuff. I think flux core would be more appropriate for that type of stuff. The Snap On didn't have flux capability. I'm just learning so wanted to be able to learn both ways. Some day I'd like a 220v setup but we don't have a 220v outlet here anyway.
 
The little 140 amp migs can be pretty useful if you don't want to weld heavy stuff. They aren't really 140 amp welders, more like 85 or so unless you only want to weld a few seconds at a time. I've welded up a fair amount of 1/8" angle iron and sheet (and thinner) with my 140.

I recently bought a Tweco 211i, which is a dual-voltage multi-process inverter welder that cost about $1000, not including any tig stuff. Even on 120v., it is amazing, and considerably more powerful than my 140-amp 120v. transformer mig machine.

You may never need a bigger welder than that HD 140, as long as you use it within its limits. Lots of fence and gate guys use the 140 class welders all the time. I see them using flux core outdoors pretty commonly. You're obviously not going to be using it for structural or pipeline work.

Disclaimer: I am also a novice welder, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.
 
Yeah not trying to weld car frames or anything like that. Just making storage sheds and that kind of thing. Minor body work and maybe mufflers. Who knows. Maybe I'll get good and next go around I'll get a nicer, more capable setup. Limited with my 110v outlet situation here anyway though.
 
Have one of these at the shop.
But not used very frequently..

Still gets the job done.. some slag hammer chipping and voila the mower deck or whatever is good.. or better than new.

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Originally Posted By: ryanschillinger
thats a stick welder? I want to spend some time and learn how to weld better and do stick welding and stuff too. I understand tig is really hard.


Yea its a regular stick welder. If you have a good helmet its pretty foolproof for most mild steel and some other materials.

note: that's not my pic although the welder is identical
 
Originally Posted By: ryanschillinger
Well the clutch linkage rod on my truck is still holding up 1.5 years after I temporarily welded it with my 110v snap on mig setup. I'm not planning on welding car frames or anything so 110v should be ok as I learn. Hopefully I can get a 220v outlet when we buy a home, but still renting. Not going to spend the $500+ to upgrade someone else's property.


Could you make extension cord and use dryer outlet for 220v
 
Originally Posted By: Rand
Have one of these at the shop.
But not used very frequently..

Still gets the job done.. some slag hammer chipping and voila the mower deck or whatever is good.. or better than new.

IMG00001.jpg





I inherited the exact same welder from my Dad. He bought it around 1970.
 
We only have gas outlet for dryer here. That's why my electric dryer is unfortunately on Craigslist. I'm pretty sure this will handle whatever I need it to until I gain a good amount of experience and have a 220v outlet. You would need a 220v to weld shock mounts and stuff like that I believe, right?
 
Originally Posted By: ryanschillinger
You would need a 220v to weld shock mounts and stuff like that I believe, right?


It depends, on a car 120v will do that job up to 3/16. Chances are on a unibody car you wont need more than what you have.
When it starts getting 1/4" and more its time to use a bigger machine or a stick. If its really critical like joining a truck frame, welding an engine block or aluminum casting I let a prof welder to do it.
 
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