lighter weight oil in my V-8

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Hello to all,

In about a month I plan to have my 01' Durango V-8/4.7 liter's oil changed so I was wondering if I can use a lighter weight oil like 5W-20 instead of the factories specified 5w30 safely??? Just wondering. Any opinions/Suggestions would be appreciated.

Of course I always use a synthetic like my currently used Mobil 1 "extended".

Durango
 
They changed it to 5W20 a few years ago I think. I experimented with 5W20 PP in a '04 Ram with the same 4.7L and it didnt mind at all. This was in Vegas too.
 
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Hey Durango,

I don't know if your motor has that crazy 3 timing chain design or not, but if it does I wouldn't know if I would start dialing down the oil grade below manufacturer's recommendations. The tensioners for those chains are essentially some sort of high molecular weight plastic and do wear over time. Long story short I don't know what would happen if you ran a 20 grade oil, but unless someone else knows what's best for those tensioning guides I wouldn't stray too far away from OEM recommendations. As I said this is just a suggestion based on a few tear dowsn of 04 Durango motors so if anyone knows differently follow their advice.
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I didn't read Omno's post when I was submitting so if a 5W20 is recommended use it. The owners of the vehicles I looked at were running 30 grade synthetics.
 
Guys,

I don't know much about this type of motor but after I bought it others have told me it's essentially the same engine taken from the Jeep in order to help save gas an improve mileage. Since bought new it's been a rock solid motor and of course I don't want to jepardize the integraty. I can stick with the oil weight I have with no issues. Just want to try and squeeze more MPG out of it.

Thanks for your opinions. :-)

Durango
 
I guess the real question is why? Chance extra wear to gain less than 1mpg in a vehicle that already gets horrible mileage?
 
It will be fine. We ran a dozen dakotas for a 3 years now on 5w20 when we switched the fleet to it to comply with Ford warranty and recomendations. Most have gone to surpluss auction this summer and they still run strong and well. They provide less power and eat more gas then the fullsize Fords however. If the engines weren't such pigs I would have bought a dakota in surplus for a swap motor. The reamining Dakotas are used as pool vehicles. No consumption issues or loss in performance (how would we measure that?) noted.

You can run 5w20. I don't know if you will have any measurable gains. But the oils are good.
 
Guys/Gals,

Thank you for your swift comments. I guess I"ll just stick to the 5w30 weight oil then. All I'm interested in is getting better mileage from my engine but I baby my engine and don't ever do any burn-outs!!!! For my pocket book it's not worth risking my engines longevity over a slight gain in mileage. This is unless Chrysler says I can go to a 5W-20 in print.

Thanks again,

Durango
 
The 4.7 will take what ever you want to toss at here. I ran everything from Mobil 1 5E30 to Mobil 1 15W50 in it and never had a problem with mine. Some people have started to have problems with oil consumption because of how high up they put the top ring. That was never an issue for mine though. I know for a fact that when that engine was first designed the engineers tested and validated it with 10W30. Then just before they took it to production they decided to reclearance the oil pump gears to provide the same pressure and volume with 5W30 oil. You can easily read that information from ALLPAR along with all kinds of design details and cut aways of the engine etc......I never heard of them reclearancing or issue a new part number for an oil pump specifically clearanced for 5W20.....They definitely did not revalidates the entire drive train as that would cost too much. I am sure they probably just took a few fleet vehicles tried 5W20 in it and looked at UOA and maybe one analytical forensic tear down. That is not really validation. Their H.O, version still does not recommend 5W20 last I checked.

Many 5W30 conventional oils break down to a 5W20 after about 1500 miles and some Synthetic 5W30's where awfully thin to start with like Mobil 1 5W30.

Mow the real question is what do you hope to gain by going to a 5W20? A 5W30 or a 5W20 are going to be so close that in your application you will never ever see a fuel savings not even over a 12 month time frame especialy if you are talking about synthetic oils they are both a 5W's.....A solid 0W30 or 0W40 would save you more in fuel cost's then a 5W20 would when compared tot he gold standard in America of 5W30. If you wanted a premium product that will work great inthat engine I would recomend the following Amsoil HD 5W30, Redline 5W20,5W30,0W40,5W40, Mobil 1 0W30,0W40 and Delvac 5W40,Rottela T 5w40.

If you wanted to save fuel I would try Redline 5W20 as it has a boat load of molly which is a great friction reducing agent next would be Mobil 1 0W40 it shears as you pour it into the engine but it does not seem to effect it's anti-wear performance and helps it's fuel ecconomy especialy upon start up and the first few miles to warm up!!!! I have never been impressed with Amsoils SS 0W30 but I love their HD 5W30!!!

I am partial to 5W40's myself and have never seen a milage improvment even when I went with Mobil 1R 0W30 Racing Oil which is or was really thin! I think most synthetic 5W30's are about the sweet spot for the way the average American drives really and have not seen where 5W20 has been able to do anything that a good 5W30 could not do. If the fuel savings was drastic I could see it but a truck owner is not going to see any difference you have too much parasitic drag going on to even notice the modest improvment.
 
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