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Kid crashes M5
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I saw this on the news the other day.
A father loaning his son a 500 horsepoer BMW M5 is like giving the kid a loaded .357 Magnum
A father loaning his son a 500 horsepoer BMW M5 is like giving the kid a loaded .357 Magnum
And a drunk son at that.
Sorry to say, but this one looks like a Darwin Award nominee.
Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
Sorry to say, but this one looks like a Darwin Award nominee.
I'm almost ashamed to admit I was thinking similarly cold thoughts. Although I'm sure Dad's going to suffer through [an underworld location] of his own making, for the rest of his days, perhaps his ability to make further contributions to the gene pool should be -- eliminated...
Sorry to say, but this one looks like a Darwin Award nominee.
I'm almost ashamed to admit I was thinking similarly cold thoughts. Although I'm sure Dad's going to suffer through [an underworld location] of his own making, for the rest of his days, perhaps his ability to make further contributions to the gene pool should be -- eliminated...
Those he made before he died were a bit eery!
I'm stunned that someone clearly with enough money and also so earnest in learning to drive better didn't attend a high performance driving school.
But wait, what's this say?
"...a 2008 BMW M5 painted Space Gray flew off the raised end of a runway at a private airport just outside Ocala, Florida, sailed 200 feet through the air and stuck a huge tree. The impact with the tree occurred 15 feet off the ground."
What kind of airport has a "raised end of a runway" that leads to a huge tree?! And there's more: "Apparently it can be accessed through an unguarded gate." Hmmm. I predict difficult times for John Travolta's little airport. Maybe even harder times than the SF zoo?
But wait, what's this say?
"...a 2008 BMW M5 painted Space Gray flew off the raised end of a runway at a private airport just outside Ocala, Florida, sailed 200 feet through the air and stuck a huge tree. The impact with the tree occurred 15 feet off the ground."
What kind of airport has a "raised end of a runway" that leads to a huge tree?! And there's more: "Apparently it can be accessed through an unguarded gate." Hmmm. I predict difficult times for John Travolta's little airport. Maybe even harder times than the SF zoo?
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Originally Posted By: ekpolk
Although I'm sure Dad's going to suffer through [an underworld location] of his own making, for the rest of his days,
Does Florida recognize negligent entrustment? If so, I'm predicting legal heck and financial ruin for the guy - can't imagine having a policy big enough to cover this screw up.
Although I'm sure Dad's going to suffer through [an underworld location] of his own making, for the rest of his days,
Does Florida recognize negligent entrustment? If so, I'm predicting legal heck and financial ruin for the guy - can't imagine having a policy big enough to cover this screw up.
I'm not sure who had poorer judgment, Josh or his father. I remember a Car Talk episode where a lady called to get advice on which motor in the Z3 they should get for their 16 year old daughter, 4 or 6....
"Do you ever take it off any sweet jumps?" - Napoleon Dynamite
My first car had 65 hp.
My first car had 65 hp.
It must be a fairly long runway for John Travolta to fly his Boeing 707 in and out of.
Another interesting point that a friend of mine made: runways usually have everything short of strobe lights and sirens to warn you when you're reaching the end.
Not really meaningful given the kid's apparent character, but it adds an element of irony...
Not really meaningful given the kid's apparent character, but it adds an element of irony...
Originally Posted By: Win
Does Florida recognize negligent entrustment? If so, I'm predicting legal heck and financial ruin for the guy - can't imagine having a policy big enough to cover this screw up.
Dad will be financial toast. Its his car/insurance. He'll get what he deserves.
Does Florida recognize negligent entrustment? If so, I'm predicting legal heck and financial ruin for the guy - can't imagine having a policy big enough to cover this screw up.
Dad will be financial toast. Its his car/insurance. He'll get what he deserves.
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Well, we all learned stuff the hard way. The fact that we're here is a testimony to learning our limitations with the first few failures ..or mastering the obstacles enough to permit even more hard learned lessons.
This guy just failed an exam that he wasn't ready to take.
You can't "CLEP" wisdom
This guy just failed an exam that he wasn't ready to take.
You can't "CLEP" wisdom
That really sucks for the passengers! I hope the passenger's parents sue the driver's father.
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Originally Posted By: Win
Does Florida recognize negligent entrustment? If so, I'm predicting legal heck and financial ruin for the guy - can't imagine having a policy big enough to cover this screw up.
Dad will be financial toast. Its his car/insurance. He'll get what he deserves.
Without doubt. FL has negligent entrustment, but we even go a step further with what is known as the "dangerous instrumentality doctrine". Grossly oversummarized, in FL, the owner of a motor vehicle is primarily responsible for damage caused as a result of its use, ahead of the driver. Whenever there is a crash, BOTH the owner and driver are responsible, but the owner is "in line" ahead of the driver. Rental car companies hate the rule and have fought for years to get it undone. I like it because it really forces people to be careful about who they allow to use their cars.
Originally Posted By: Win
Does Florida recognize negligent entrustment? If so, I'm predicting legal heck and financial ruin for the guy - can't imagine having a policy big enough to cover this screw up.
Dad will be financial toast. Its his car/insurance. He'll get what he deserves.
Without doubt. FL has negligent entrustment, but we even go a step further with what is known as the "dangerous instrumentality doctrine". Grossly oversummarized, in FL, the owner of a motor vehicle is primarily responsible for damage caused as a result of its use, ahead of the driver. Whenever there is a crash, BOTH the owner and driver are responsible, but the owner is "in line" ahead of the driver. Rental car companies hate the rule and have fought for years to get it undone. I like it because it really forces people to be careful about who they allow to use their cars.
Originally Posted By: mtbugbee
Any idea based on the weight of the car and the distance travelled how fast they were going?
There were skid marks on the runway, so the car had scrubbed off speed by the time it launched. Doing some quick and dirty estimates, anywhere between 65 and 75 mph. This is using the available figures that the car traveled about 200 feet off the end of the runway, hit the tree 15 feet high and the runway being 80-85 feet higher.
Any idea based on the weight of the car and the distance travelled how fast they were going?
There were skid marks on the runway, so the car had scrubbed off speed by the time it launched. Doing some quick and dirty estimates, anywhere between 65 and 75 mph. This is using the available figures that the car traveled about 200 feet off the end of the runway, hit the tree 15 feet high and the runway being 80-85 feet higher.
http://www.ocala.com/article/20080204/BREAKING_NEWS/261837791/-1/news24&template=artwithcomments
The headline is misleading as paragraphs 1 and 5 are in clear conflict. "At least" 120 mph before hitting the brakes for 2-3 seconds and skidding sideways. Plenty of speed should have been scrubbed off in those 2-3 seconds.
The headline is misleading as paragraphs 1 and 5 are in clear conflict. "At least" 120 mph before hitting the brakes for 2-3 seconds and skidding sideways. Plenty of speed should have been scrubbed off in those 2-3 seconds.
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