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Wow, I can’t believe that all these Hyundai and Kia engines are blowing up and this is the first I’ve heard of it.
my neighbor has had nothing but good luck in the last 10 years. Elantra, Sonata , and now a genesis. He handed his cars down to his sone and his wife has a Kia crossover.
I would have thought this type of failure rate would be in some gearhead news outlet ?
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Wow, I can’t believe that all these Hyundai and Kia engines are blowing up and this is the first I’ve heard of it.
my neighbor has had nothing but good luck in the last 10 years. Elantra, Sonata , and now a genesis. He handed his cars down to his sone and his wife has a Kia crossover.
I would have thought this type of failure rate would be in some gearhead news outlet ?
Fordt you’ve heard of it. It’s all over the internet about extensive oil consumption and bad engines.
 
Very interesting story. California to Minneapolis round trips. Most of that is pretty rural so I can see how he could run fast and hard without getting a lot of tickets. A Kia Sorrento is the perfect generic vehicle for drug running. It would be interesting to see how his replacement Honda powered Saturn performs if he continues the operation. I think that generation of the Honda 3.5 was quite robust.
 
Is it a 3.3 V6
My 2006 Sonatas 3.3l lasted to 105k and ran perfectly before Someone killed it at an intersection. I’ve had a total of 11 Hyundais since 1987. All but one were flawless. The two KIAs my daughter and niece had were solid cars, sans a motor mount on one. Not saying there are not issues with some of the cars, but I don’t see the massive death pile of Kia’s and Hyundai, and see plenty on the roads. I’ve been hearing more about Fords 2.7l engines grenading lately more than anything. every manu has issues. If H/K was that bad theyd be out of business.and to fault the engines if this guy was driving them like Mario Andretti is, well, a bit over the top.
 
Very interesting story. California to Minneapolis round trips. Most of that is pretty rural so I can see how he could run fast and hard without getting a lot of tickets. A Kia Sorrento is the perfect generic vehicle for drug running. It would be interesting to see how his replacement Honda powered Saturn performs if he continues the operation. I think that generation of the Honda 3.5 was quite robust.
As I ponder this story a bit more, would you really want to be drug running in a rig that is likely to blow a motor at any time and leave you in the middle of nowhere? Getting a long tow to repairs that will likely take weeks?
 
My 2006 Sonatas 3.3l lasted to 105k and ran perfectly before Someone killed it at an intersection. I’ve had a total of 11 Hyundais since 1987. All but one were flawless. The two KIAs my daughter and niece had were solid cars, sans a motor mount on one. Not saying there are not issues with some of the cars, but I don’t see the massive death pile of Kia’s and Hyundai, and see plenty on the roads. I’ve been hearing more about Fords 2.7l engines grenading lately more than anything. every manu has issues. If H/K was that bad theyd be out of business.and to fault the engines if this guy was driving them like Mario Andretti is, well, a bit over the top.
The ones I see on the roads smoke, paint is missing on 3 year old car, also these issues are on the 4 cylinder powered. I don’t see that many on road where I’m at, but the ones I see are as described. There are more Camrys and accords on the road than anything. The 3.3 liter v6 is good. We never really saw those.
 
Owned two Hyundai's and loved them, the last one, an 05 Tucson with the 2.7V6 was phenomenal, and ran perfect until my 17yr old daughter decided to run it into the rear of a chevy truck and kill it. I hear they didn't get bad until the whole GDI rollout...
 
Are the engines that fail made in Korea or USA?
I don't hear much about failing engines in Canada where KIAs come from Korean plants. I have 2 KIAs, both came from Korea.
 
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Crap blows up after 60k of abuse
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Would've been the perfect candidate for oil grade changes. Obviously, vehicle's cap probably says 5w20. Wonder if the engines would last longer on 5w30, 5w40.....

Abuse seems to simply blame owner for the crappy engines. All my engines are abused. Only the theta-2's have failed. My Fords, Toyotas, Mazdas, Nissans, VW's... didn't.
 
I have worked for Kia, I can assure you engines were replaced a lot. It’s not if it’s when, from 40,000 to 125,000.
Right, and if I remember there was a lower bearing/oil pressure problem, that also involved oil consumption (rings?). Lots of engines replaced, warranties extended, oil consumption campaigns, etc, etc.

I just don’t quite buy this particular story...guy beats on his car, yet well maintains it. All the while being a drug dealer. 600,000 plus miles in the same car, and you’re a hard driving drug dealer? Wouldn’t you want to keep it under the speed limit? 🤣😂 Or change vehicles once in a while? And six engines were replaced? Didn’t KIA upgrade or improve the issue? I thought they did. And along the way to 600,000 miles this guy never seemed to get a good KIA engine? Lots of engines replaced, yes, but lots of engines NOT replaced too. This guy seemed to but every branch as he fell out of the tree...I’m not buying it.
 
Right, and if I remember there was a lower bearing/oil pressure problem, that also involved oil consumption (rings?). Lots of engines replaced, warranties extended, oil consumption campaigns, etc, etc.

I just don’t quite buy this particular story...guy beats on his car, yet well maintains it. All the while being a drug dealer. 600,000 plus miles in the same car, and you’re a hard driving drug dealer? Wouldn’t you want to keep it under the speed limit? 🤣😂 Or change vehicles once in a while? And six engines were replaced? Didn’t KIA upgrade or improve the issue? I thought they did. And along the way to 600,000 miles this guy never seemed to get a good KIA engine? Lots of engines replaced, yes, but lots of engines NOT replaced too. This guy seemed to but every branch as he fell out of the tree...I’m not buying it.
They are still having issues. Almost every vehicle is on the list.

https://jalopnik.com/hyundai-owners-file-class-action-over-excessive-engine-1848797045
 
All i've owned for the past 12 years. One reaching 261K miles (2.0T Thetta II) and several 2.4L Thetta II (one reaching 181K). They've been the most reliable cars we've ever owned and now have two more. We're very very happy, as are other's in our family and friends circle. Never had an oil consumption issue either.

Always changed the oil in the Turbo between 3-4K and 3-5 for the
 
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Disagree with me all you want, but that many engine swaps even if driven hard is just indication of bad quality that I’ve come to expect from Hyundai Kia , especially at 3k oci. If it was 10k oci at jiffy lube and driven like a maniac everywhere, maybe I’d understand. I don’t care if you’re racing that thing, with 3k oci any engine should last far far longer.

We’ve heard these stories over and over from this maker. If you’re a guy that buys new every few years, ya maybe they can be a good deal with the warranty and whatnot , but it beats me how anyone who wants an actual quality car mechanically would ever buy one of these. All makes went through growing pains in the emissions era with their small power plants, but the worst of that with quality makes was some oil consumption and fuel dilution, the engines still run for a long long time, and oil consumption has been eliminated. The smartstream is reported to have consumption and piston slap from the factory is many cases. I’m just not gonna be gaslit into believing h/k all the sudden makes a quality car.
 
I wouldn't waste effort on even trying to verify a story like that, although most folks knowledgeable about the history of vehicles and quality know it's not exactly a far fetched story.

I think if you premix oil with the gas they'll be fine. :LOL:

I wonder, what percentage of a company's product has to fail to keep someone from saying, "you only hear about the bad ones".
 
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