Kerosene/Paint Thinner in engine oil and fuel?

[Jimbo]

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Originally posted by T-Keith:

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Originally posted by cryptokid:
i never seen a clogged fuel injector in my life and i have tested and sold hundreds and hundreds of used injectors on ebay.


the reason you dont need fuel system cleaners is for the exact reason you just stated. the gas companies already put the stuff in the gas. you dont need any more additives than what they already put in.

i know some gas companys dont use the epa required ammount of additives but they are cracking down on this so its not a big deal. if you get a couple bad tanks of gas it does not matter.

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Do you only work on new vehicles? Even in my limited experience I've dealt with clogged, leaking and dirty injectors. I've also cleaned many carbs that had varnish(not sure if this is the correct term) thick enough that you couldn?t scrape it off. Working on classic cars with my Dad when I was younger, the number 1 thing we did was take the carb off take it apart and clean it out. Did this problem suddenly disappear with the invention of fuel injection? Or is it a problem that modern fuel and computer controls hide better?

-T

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What has changed is the additives that come in name-brand fuel are a lot better than in the past. Both the 1972 Buick and 1987 Dodge have sparkling clean carbs. They get mostly Chevron gas. The problem did disappear indirectly because of fuel injection. The newer detergents were developed because of clogging fuel injectors.

 

[KJA426]

I wouldn't put kerosene in a gas tank but I have used a small amount added to the engine oil as a flush before changing the oil.

 

[nightkrawler]

the only solvent's i have used in the fuel tank is toluene or xylene. toulene is 114 octane, works great as a fi cleaner and octane booster. here is an equation to use toluene as a octane booster, example, ((10galx93octane)+(1gal toluenex114octane))/11gal total=approx 94.90 octane

 

[cryptokid]

hey guys i never said it was impossible to clog an injector. i said i had never seen a clogged injecroe before. im sure its hapopend, as evidence by that picture.

also,m intake valves dont get dirty because of the detergents, which gas companys are suppose to put in the gas.

 

[Big Jim]

What color is the sky in your world?

There is a lot of build up on the intake valves on most engines because most gasoline does not have enough cleaners to do the job. I have seen the evidence on too many engines. Maybe this will change with "Tier 1" registration. I have my doubts.

This seems to come and go in waves. For a few years the oil companies will spend the money for detergents and when the topic seems to drop off the radar, they drop the additives. We seem to be in the midst of a ramping up now, but how low will it last and how many oil companies really get on board?

 

[T-Keith]

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Originally posted by Jimbo:

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Originally posted by T-Keith:

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Originally posted by cryptokid:
i never seen a clogged fuel injector in my life and i have tested and sold hundreds and hundreds of used injectors on ebay.


the reason you dont need fuel system cleaners is for the exact reason you just stated. the gas companies already put the stuff in the gas. you dont need any more additives than what they already put in.

i know some gas companys dont use the epa required ammount of additives but they are cracking down on this so its not a big deal. if you get a couple bad tanks of gas it does not matter.

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Do you only work on new vehicles? Even in my limited experience I've dealt with clogged, leaking and dirty injectors. I've also cleaned many carbs that had varnish(not sure if this is the correct term) thick enough that you couldn?t scrape it off. Working on classic cars with my Dad when I was younger, the number 1 thing we did was take the carb off take it apart and clean it out. Did this problem suddenly disappear with the invention of fuel injection? Or is it a problem that modern fuel and computer controls hide better?

-T

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What has changed is the additives that come in name-brand fuel are a lot better than in the past. Both the 1972 Buick and 1987 Dodge have sparkling clean carbs. They get mostly Chevron gas. The problem did disappear indirectly because of fuel injection. The newer detergents were developed because of clogging fuel injectors.

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Maybe you misread my post. We worked on classic cars, but this was only several years ago. Cars that are run a lot, with the new gas and new detergents.

-T

 

[Lumberg]

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Originally posted by LarryL
As the oil filter would get plugged up, we would change it and add a 50/50 mixture of Mobil 1 and carb cleaner. We reved it up and let it idle.

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How did you know when the oil filter got clogged?

 

[Lumberg]

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[Shaman]

One way is to touch them. If they are cold, they are full.