Kay: Some weapons may have been moved to Iraq...

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http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/16666.htm
January 27, 2004 -- Don't be taken in by all the hot air following David Kay's statement Friday that he didn't think any weapons of mass destruction currently exist in Iraq. After all, Kay's last report confirmed that Iraq had WMD programs, if not weapons. And he now says some weapons may have been moved to Syria.
Kay believes Saddam was trying to boost his WMD programs starting in 2000, but was deceived by his own scientists. In what Kay calls a "vortex of corruption," scientists seem to have stolen the regime's nuke money.
Contrary to the hysterical anti-Bush rants, Kay insists the failure to find WMD stocks suggests not a conspiracy to go to war but yet another huge intelligence failure. That the CIA is in need of massive overhaul has been clear since 1994, when it turned out Aldrich Ames, a top counterintelligence officer, had been working for the Russians for over a decade.
Then came 9/11 - the most catastrophic U.S. intelligence failure since Pearl Harbor. Amazingly, no heads have rolled - not even Director George Tenet's. Yes, other intelligence services, including Great Britain's, were similarly wrong on Iraq. But in an age of terrorism and WMDs, America can't do with anything less than the best intelligence.
Still, even if Iraq's WMD program was much smaller and less threatening than thought, that hardly undermines the justification for war.

The facts?
* Iraq was in violation of multiple U.N. resolutions concerning weapons programs: It failed, for instance, to declare WMD programs and to account for WMD stocks; it also maintained missiles with ranges in excess of U.N. limits.
* President Bush never said there was imminent danger of an Iraqi WMD strike, only that America must act before then.
* Saddam was a clear threat to America's interests even without WMDs: He gave sanctuary to terrorists like Abu Nidal and started two disastrous wars against his neighbors.
* Saddam wasn't just an ordinary Arab dictator, but a genocidal mass-murderer.
* He'd already used poison gas to murder Kurds and during the Iran-Iraq war. As British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said yesterday, more evidence may yet emerge. If he had no weapons or active WMD programs, then "what on earth explains why Saddam Hussein, . . . months after he was given an ultimatum to come clean, refused to cooperate fully?" Saddam must have had something to hide - besides mass graves.
 
What do facts have to do with anything? It's an election year.
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It is interesting that the editorial is written in the same misleading style as Bush's pre-invasion charades about weapons of mass destruction and an imminent threat.

First, Iraq was in the process of complying with UN resolutions. They demonstrated their best efforts, even partially destroying the disputed SSM missile inventory that allegedly technically exceeded the range under empty payloads according to Washington. While these weapons could be used in self defense, these were in the process of being destroyed, all while under the threat of invasion. Iraq obviously was willing to do whatever it took to avoid a confrontation. It is quite clear who was the unjustified aggressor in this case, and no amount of slick talk will persuade world opinion on this matter.

What this slick op-ed also fails to address is: why were the weapons inspections an inadequate and inferior method of addressing any potential threats to the United States as compared to a military invasion.

As for any terrorists, I am sure you pick any country of significant size, and there may be some terrorist there; if the White house thought the terrorist issue was in fact an issue they did not demonstrate this. They made no attempts to negotiate with Iraq nor even specify specific grievances, such as they wanted this or that person (for example, "Abu Nidal" mentioned in the op ed) extradited.

Another point:
What I have always suspected, and what is now coming to light, is that Bush Cheney were intent on invading iraq well before Sept 2001.

What I don't understand about certain folks is why they try to justify the actions of clearly corrupt and dishonest politicians? Eric, I don't know if you share the opinions in the posted op-ed, but if so, I would be curious to know the answer to the question stated above.
 
Which corrupt and dishonest politician do you wish to discuss?? Edwards, whore of a lawyer whose Trial Lawyers Association backs him to the hilt?? Kerry, whose "Winter Soldier" schtic during the VN war destroyed the rep of all the guys who served with phony testemony?? Dran?? Say, when is he going to relaese those docs he sealed?? He got something to hide??
Do you remember the "Keating Five"?? Four Democrats and one Republican. The Democratic party needs to get the beam out of it's eye before it complains about the twig in someone elses.
 
Which corrupt and dishonest politician do you wish to discuss?? Edwards, whore of a lawyer whose Trial Lawyers Association backs him to the hilt?? Kerry, whose "Winter Soldier" schtic during the VN war destroyed the rep of all the guys who served with phony testemony?? Dean?? Say, when is he going to relaese those docs he sealed?? He got something to hide??
Do you remember the "Keating Five"?? Four Democrats and one Republican. The Democratic party needs to get the beam out of it's eye before it complains about the twig in someone elses.
 
It pleases me greatly that the take down of the extremely brutal regime in Iraq has gotten the attention of the leader of Lybia to such an effective degree. The horrible brutality of Saddam cried out to the world for relief and I am so thankful we have the leadership to take it on, especially after it reached our land on 9/11/01. The leadership of Lybia obviously took notice and the world is a little bit safer than it was before. Yes, there are others who are threats to world peace and in time they will have to be dealt with. They understand only effective force. I am overwhelmingly thankful for the strong leadership at the top. Without it we would have no effective dealing with the attack on our shores or those who sponsered it. Most of all, the mass killings and brutality of the evil regime needed to be brought to an end. No one appropriately concerned with human rights could wish the such horrors could have been allowed to remain. We owe it to such suffering people.
 
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Originally posted by giant_robo:
First, Iraq was in the process of complying with UN resolutions.

You can't go backwards in time, the resolutions were already violated multiple times. He was "in the process of complying" for the previous 12 years, LOL, to the full satisfaction of their strategic allies and "oil for weapons" partners, the French. Didn't you agree with President Clintons 1998 Iraq regime change policy?

Kind of a mute point anyhow, Saddam is gone and good riddance. The dirtgabs learned that if you kick sand in our face, we will hunt you down and get you. That lesson is priceless, and exceeds the satisfaction of seeing Saddam live in a mud hole, scared sh*tless and surrendering as a coward. Bin Laden knows what his future holds, if he is alive and ever comes out of his dirt hole.

Keith.
 
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